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re: Meat writing Bat 1+2 claim evidence

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Smeghead 01:52 am UTC 10/10/08
In reply to: re: Meat writing Bat 1+2 claim evidence - Pudding 08:01 am UTC 10/09/08

The concept for Bat out of Hel is: Jim takes three songs he wrote for Neverland, takes another song based on Neverland, another song he wrote awhile ago that DeShields apparently sung, and add 2 more songs and have Meat sing them. Seriously, there isn't a "concept" to Bat Out Of Hell. It is Songs written by Jim Steinman (many for projects Meat had nothing to do with) sung by Meat Loaf.

> Point 12 definitely is plausible and could have some merit
> to it. But yeah, 13 and 17 are total bollocks.
>
> > Point 12 I can understand and basing on that Meat may have
> > had a (slight if any) claim on the Bat trademark or at
> > least using it for Bat 3 only if he wished imo.
> >
> > However points 13 and 17 are mostly a load of shit.
> >
> > > Following on from a conversation below and just to prove
> > > Smeg (the bastard) right...yet again(curse him) this is
> > > Meats writing claim for Bat1 and Bat 2.
> > >
> > > Click link below for full court papers and it's on page 10
> > > of 17.
> > >
> > > The Plaintiff being Meat Loaf and the Defendant being Jim
> > >
> > > 12. The concept of the Bat Out Of Hell album resulted from
> > > a joint creative effort between Plaintiff and Defendant
> > > Steinman.
> > >
> > > 13. Plaintiff was the artist, singer and Performer for Bat
> > > Out Of Hell. His role included providing portions of the
> > > lyrics, as well as developing the overall presentation of
> > > the songs. Plaintiff performed all the songs on the album,
> > > and was and is the sole user of the BAT OUT OF HELL mark.
> > >
> > > 17. Following the success of Bat Out Of Hell 1, a Bat Out
> > > Of Hell 2 album was released in September 1993. Defendant
> > > Steinman wrote the songs and produced the album. Plaintiff
> > > provided most of the lyrics, singing, performing and
> > > developing the overall presentation of the songs.


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