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Pudding 07:29 pm UTC 10/10/08 |
| In reply to: | Besides - Smeghead 11:28 am UTC 10/10/08 |
| If Meat just recorded the songs Jim wrote then why did they spend 12 months (or whatever it was) together in an hotel room working on the 7 songs? Why not skip all that and Jim and Meat just meet up at the studio? No one is saying they had equal input into the concept (not story) of the album, but there's no way any reasonable minded person isn't going to believe Meat had some small minor part in it. > My point is that there is no concept to Bat Out Of Hell. > The concept is Meat recrded songs Jim wrote. Most of them > Jim did not even write for the album. > > > I know it pains you to give Meat any form of credit for > > anything, but I refuse to believe when Meat & Jim was > > locked in an hotel room thrashing out the songs for Bat > > Out Of Hell, Meat didn't have some form of input. > > > > > The concept for Bat out of Hel is: Jim takes three songs > > > he wrote for Neverland, takes another song based on > > > Neverland, another song he wrote awhile ago that DeShields > > > apparently sung, and add 2 more songs and have Meat sing > > > them. Seriously, there isn't a "concept" to Bat Out Of > > > Hell. It is Songs written by Jim Steinman (many for > > > projects Meat had nothing to do with) sung by Meat Loaf. > > > > > > > Point 12 definitely is plausible and could have some merit > > > > to it. But yeah, 13 and 17 are total bollocks. > > > > > > > > > Point 12 I can understand and basing on that Meat may have > > > > > had a (slight if any) claim on the Bat trademark or at > > > > > least using it for Bat 3 only if he wished imo. > > > > > > > > > > However points 13 and 17 are mostly a load of shit. > > > > > > > > > > > Following on from a conversation below and just to prove > > > > > > Smeg (the bastard) right...yet again(curse him) this is > > > > > > Meats writing claim for Bat1 and Bat 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > Click link below for full court papers and it's on page 10 > > > > > > of 17. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Plaintiff being Meat Loaf and the Defendant being Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > 12. The concept of the Bat Out Of Hell album resulted from > > > > > > a joint creative effort between Plaintiff and Defendant > > > > > > Steinman. > > > > > > > > > > > > 13. Plaintiff was the artist, singer and Performer for Bat > > > > > > Out Of Hell. His role included providing portions of the > > > > > > lyrics, as well as developing the overall presentation of > > > > > > the songs. Plaintiff performed all the songs on the album, > > > > > > and was and is the sole user of the BAT OUT OF HELL mark. > > > > > > > > > > > > 17. Following the success of Bat Out Of Hell 1, a Bat Out > > > > > > Of Hell 2 album was released in September 1993. Defendant > > > > > > Steinman wrote the songs and produced the album. Plaintiff > > > > > > provided most of the lyrics, singing, performing and > > > > > > developing the overall presentation of the songs. | |
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