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Smeghead 09:05 pm UTC 10/10/08 |
| In reply to: | re: Besides - Pudding 07:29 pm UTC 10/10/08 |
| They didn't spend 12 months in a room working on 7 songs. 4 of them were already written anyway. They were sharing a room or whatever. > If Meat just recorded the songs Jim wrote then why did > they spend 12 months (or whatever it was) together in an > hotel room working on the 7 songs? Why not skip all that > and Jim and Meat just meet up at the studio? > > No one is saying they had equal input into the concept > (not story) of the album, but there's no way any > reasonable minded person isn't going to believe Meat had > some small minor part in it. > > > My point is that there is no concept to Bat Out Of Hell. > > The concept is Meat recrded songs Jim wrote. Most of them > > Jim did not even write for the album. > > > > > I know it pains you to give Meat any form of credit for > > > anything, but I refuse to believe when Meat & Jim was > > > locked in an hotel room thrashing out the songs for Bat > > > Out Of Hell, Meat didn't have some form of input. > > > > > > > The concept for Bat out of Hel is: Jim takes three songs > > > > he wrote for Neverland, takes another song based on > > > > Neverland, another song he wrote awhile ago that DeShields > > > > apparently sung, and add 2 more songs and have Meat sing > > > > them. Seriously, there isn't a "concept" to Bat Out Of > > > > Hell. It is Songs written by Jim Steinman (many for > > > > projects Meat had nothing to do with) sung by Meat Loaf. > > > > > > > > > Point 12 definitely is plausible and could have some merit > > > > > to it. But yeah, 13 and 17 are total bollocks. > > > > > > > > > > > Point 12 I can understand and basing on that Meat may have > > > > > > had a (slight if any) claim on the Bat trademark or at > > > > > > least using it for Bat 3 only if he wished imo. > > > > > > > > > > > > However points 13 and 17 are mostly a load of shit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Following on from a conversation below and just to prove > > > > > > > Smeg (the bastard) right...yet again(curse him) this is > > > > > > > Meats writing claim for Bat1 and Bat 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click link below for full court papers and it's on page 10 > > > > > > > of 17. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Plaintiff being Meat Loaf and the Defendant being Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12. The concept of the Bat Out Of Hell album resulted from > > > > > > > a joint creative effort between Plaintiff and Defendant > > > > > > > Steinman. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13. Plaintiff was the artist, singer and Performer for Bat > > > > > > > Out Of Hell. His role included providing portions of the > > > > > > > lyrics, as well as developing the overall presentation of > > > > > > > the songs. Plaintiff performed all the songs on the album, > > > > > > > and was and is the sole user of the BAT OUT OF HELL mark. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17. Following the success of Bat Out Of Hell 1, a Bat Out > > > > > > > Of Hell 2 album was released in September 1993. Defendant > > > > > > > Steinman wrote the songs and produced the album. Plaintiff > > > > > > > provided most of the lyrics, singing, performing and > > > > > > > developing the overall presentation of the songs. | |
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