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Jim Steinman and NLP - Part I

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John_Galt (g_brandon_martin@ureach.com) 01:39 pm UTC 11/08/08

A couple of years ago, I posted a question: Has anyone else noticed the techniques of conversational hypnosis or NLP in Steinman's approach to writing lyrics?

There are a few people, like Milton Erikson and Barak Obama, who just seem to naturally speak to our emotional, subconcious, and raw sides. There are some other folks like Richard Bandler who've found some kind of patterns or similarities in their languaging. I wonder how their analysis could be applied to Steinman, his lyrics and his music. Absolutely creepy and weird internet pickup artists have similarly written patterns of speech for seduction using NLP that kind of sound like Steinman songs -- without the more traditional elements of song like ummm... rhyme scheme.

Compare Jim Steinman's brilliant Surf's Up with Ross Jeffries Blow Job Pattern! The use of pacing in delivery, embedded commands, misdirection and entrancing language is similar and the effect is similar. Before I noticed that Surf's Up was a song built around a sexual pun, which is a very hypnotic languaging device, by the way, I felt it was romantically longing in a lustful way. It's also strickingly beautiful and the phrasing just as much as the languaging seem to conjure the emotional response, but that's another topic... or is it?

I didn't get a lot of response to my previous post, but I'm thinking of learning a little more about NLP and doing a series of posts on Steinman's concious or unconcious use of the tools in his works -- maybe organized device by device. This should be interesting for the writers and musicians becuase it would be a roadmap for emulating Steinman without copying his particular cliches, catch phrases, themes, and musical devices.

I'm busy and I've got an old friend's concert to attend tomorrow night, so anyone else should be free to start or tell me that the modeling or analysis that I'm talking about is impossible when it comes to Jim. Any thoughts?


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