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Smeghead 11:17 am UTC 04/02/09 |
| In reply to: | re: Is There Justice In The World? - Danny 09:40 am UTC 04/02/09 |
| As someone who has been to Meat Loaf shows, he doesn't do Jim justice. > ... And as someone who has been to a 'Steve Steinman' > show, may I point out it was bloody awful! A camp, > toe-curling pastiche, not a tribute. What was meant to be > operatic and soaring, in Steve's hands, became kitsch and > cheesy. The guy had a decent enough voice, I guess, but > the whole tone of the show was off-putting and certainly > didn't do Meat Loaf or Jim justice. > > > > > > It is so obvious that this Stuart Person is either Dean > > > Torkington, although he does not make enough spelling and > > > grammar mistakes, or his brother.. > > > > Shallah, you posted some comments about me today which > > nobody will read because they are so far down the board. > > Therefore I am starting a new thread to reply to you. > > > > I feel that you have judged me unfairly. I have no > > connection to Dean Torkington or his brother. > > > > I have read some Torkington emails that are very > > uncivilised. But the latest one is quite different. I > > guess he is in a good mood at the moment because of his > > magazine review. > > > > I had no intention of posting spam when I posted his > > letter. I am very sorry to Evil One for any upset or > > irritation that I caused him. > > > > There were two reasons for posting the letter. > > > > One was to show that old Porkington is not always > > uncivilised. In a good mood, he only makes a few spelling > > mistakes. > > > > The second and main reason was because the letter included > > his review. Even if people don't like Pork, I feel that > > they should congratulate him when he finally does > > something right. He has struggled for so many years, > > playing dingy places and not getting anywhere. The > > opposite of Steve Steinman. > > > > I feel that it is not good sportsmanship if we don't pat > > him on the back when he gets a review in a cool magazine. > > > > My concern regarding Steve Steinman has nothing to do with > > being pro-Torkington. Vulvania has now said on two > > separate occassions that at least Jim is getting > > songwriting royalties from Steve. But this is not true > > because Jim sold his catalogue some years ago. He would > > only make money out of Steve Steinman if Steve were to put > > on a theatrical production. > > > > I feel that Steve Steinman is not simply singing Jim's > > songs and paying royalties to the people who bought Jim's > > catalogue. Smeghead may be correct when he says that Steve > > Steinman is not going beyond a concert. But what a concert > > it is. > > > > This is someone who changed his name and sang Jim's songs > > so that he could create a niche for himself in the > > market. > > > > He now has a 40 piece orchestra, is calling his concert > > Bat Out Of Hell The Symphony, has raised big money for > > pyrotechnics and special effects, is hiring stars like > > Toyah Wilcox, is sometimes playing bigger venues than Meat > > Loaf and who is tricking people with his name. > > > > Unfortunately there are people in the UK who think Meat > > Loaf when they hear Bat but who might have their memories > > jogged by the name Steinman. They will think that Steve > > Steinman wrote the songs for Bat Out Of Hell The Symphony. > > > > > > Hopefully Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical will > > change that. Jim has done so many things in entertainment. > > He deserves to be publicly recognised. > > > > I do feel sorry for Meat Loaf. Much more than I feel sorry > > for Porkington. He and Jim made the songs in Bat Out Of > > Hell The Symphony famous. And then Meat sees someone > > successfully tapping into his world, even playing gigs at > > venues just before Meat is scheduled to play in the area. > > > > So he phones Steve Steinman to complain and Steve Steinman > > tells the press, to publicise Bat Out Of Hell The > > Symphony. He called Meat wacky and weak. > > > > Smeghead may be correct that Steve Steinman is not doing > > anything technically wrong. But I can't help feeling that > > the situation is unjust. | |
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