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re: Is There Justice In The World?

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Danny 09:40 am UTC 04/02/09
In reply to: Is There Justice In The World? - steven_stuart 06:21 pm UTC 04/01/09

... And as someone who has been to a 'Steve Steinman' show, may I point out it was bloody awful! A camp, toe-curling pastiche, not a tribute. What was meant to be operatic and soaring, in Steve's hands, became kitsch and cheesy. The guy had a decent enough voice, I guess, but the whole tone of the show was off-putting and certainly didn't do Meat Loaf or Jim justice.

>
> > It is so obvious that this Stuart Person is either Dean
> > Torkington, although he does not make enough spelling and
> > grammar mistakes, or his brother..
>
> Shallah, you posted some comments about me today which
> nobody will read because they are so far down the board.
> Therefore I am starting a new thread to reply to you.
>
> I feel that you have judged me unfairly. I have no
> connection to Dean Torkington or his brother.
>
> I have read some Torkington emails that are very
> uncivilised. But the latest one is quite different. I
> guess he is in a good mood at the moment because of his
> magazine review.
>
> I had no intention of posting spam when I posted his
> letter. I am very sorry to Evil One for any upset or
> irritation that I caused him.
>
> There were two reasons for posting the letter.
>
> One was to show that old Porkington is not always
> uncivilised. In a good mood, he only makes a few spelling
> mistakes.
>
> The second and main reason was because the letter included
> his review. Even if people don't like Pork, I feel that
> they should congratulate him when he finally does
> something right. He has struggled for so many years,
> playing dingy places and not getting anywhere. The
> opposite of Steve Steinman.
>
> I feel that it is not good sportsmanship if we don't pat
> him on the back when he gets a review in a cool magazine.
>
> My concern regarding Steve Steinman has nothing to do with
> being pro-Torkington. Vulvania has now said on two
> separate occassions that at least Jim is getting
> songwriting royalties from Steve. But this is not true
> because Jim sold his catalogue some years ago. He would
> only make money out of Steve Steinman if Steve were to put
> on a theatrical production.
>
> I feel that Steve Steinman is not simply singing Jim's
> songs and paying royalties to the people who bought Jim's
> catalogue. Smeghead may be correct when he says that Steve
> Steinman is not going beyond a concert. But what a concert
> it is.
>
> This is someone who changed his name and sang Jim's songs
> so that he could create a niche for himself in the
> market.
>
> He now has a 40 piece orchestra, is calling his concert
> Bat Out Of Hell The Symphony, has raised big money for
> pyrotechnics and special effects, is hiring stars like
> Toyah Wilcox, is sometimes playing bigger venues than Meat
> Loaf and who is tricking people with his name.
>
> Unfortunately there are people in the UK who think Meat
> Loaf when they hear Bat but who might have their memories
> jogged by the name Steinman. They will think that Steve
> Steinman wrote the songs for Bat Out Of Hell The Symphony.
>
>
> Hopefully Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical will
> change that. Jim has done so many things in entertainment.
> He deserves to be publicly recognised.
>
> I do feel sorry for Meat Loaf. Much more than I feel sorry
> for Porkington. He and Jim made the songs in Bat Out Of
> Hell The Symphony famous. And then Meat sees someone
> successfully tapping into his world, even playing gigs at
> venues just before Meat is scheduled to play in the area.
>
> So he phones Steve Steinman to complain and Steve Steinman
> tells the press, to publicise Bat Out Of Hell The
> Symphony. He called Meat wacky and weak.
>
> Smeghead may be correct that Steve Steinman is not doing
> anything technically wrong. But I can't help feeling that
> the situation is unjust.


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