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BULLWHIP 01:27 am UTC 12/02/09 |
| In reply to: | re: So you really think this is gonna go? - steven_stuart 12:56 am UTC 12/02/09 |
> I absolutely agree with you and disagree with Bullwhip. > > Raisng the money for a high budget show like this can take > a long time. I think that if there was any confidence in the project then the money should come easily. Jim does not generate any confidence in finishing anything in a timely manner. In saying that though, patience can be rewarded with a work of art. My question is, do the backers have the patience? My guess is no. > > If it was, as the honourable Bullwhip says, "small scale > and very mickey mouse", then it would have been up and > running in regional theatres ages ago. > > That is actually a great way to make money. Bill Kenwright > has made a fortune from doing that. That's how he paid for > Everton FC. > > But there is no way that Jim would have allowed BOOH to be > that kind of show. Bullwhip needs to have more faith in > Jim's intelligence and strength. Based on what? > > The Evening Standard Ad is a sign that there is money > about. As you say, it "doesn't come cheap". > > The ad was unfortunately slightly premature. But it won't > be long before there is more advertising backed up by a > powerful publicity machine and then things will look > different. I agree, however, that ad should have been followed up with a website with more information on it. Meat's fans are eating up his twitter posts much like Jim's fans were his blogs. Is it really smart to keep his diehard fans on the fringes? > > I think you are correct to point out that Jim is likely to > have learned from the DOTV mistakes. I am almost certain > that he has. Surely one must learn from an experience like > that. > > How can Bullwhip say: "There is no concrete financial > backing or advertising. Only subtle innuendo." That is very easy. One ad, maybe very expensive but in the end a waste. No website, no mention of credible financial backers, no disrespect to those who are putting money into it,but the way Jim talked about it, it was going to take some major money to bring it off the way Jim wants to. > > Did he miss The Evening Standard Ad? Who does he think > paid for it? The Evening Standard is the most important > newspaper for entertainment in the UK. And what is the > "subtle innuendo" that he refers to? I don't get it. The subtle innuendo refers to all the pointless little tidbits that get dropped around here with no way of knowing what is true or just speculation. No offense to anyone but it just adds to the amatuerish way the whole thing is being put together. > > BOOH is nothing like Dream Engine (not that Dream Engine > wasn't a cool project). > > > What makes you so sure it won't happen? Three years and nothing. No demos, no pictures, no blogs, no interviews and very little but regurgitated news items in the trade papers, > > > > I know I said it at the time, but a double page spread in > > the Evening Standard doesn't come cheap and, regardless > > what our opinions may be of the ad, it's not something you > > do for a small-scale, Dream Engine-type show. > > > > I also don't believe that Jim can go through an experience > > like DOTV on Broadway and then go out and make exactly the > > same mistakes again. This could be his last shot at a > > successful Broadway production (make no mistake, if it > > does well in London, then Broadway will be the next step) > > and I don't think he'll let it go lightly. > > > > > I have followed the development of the BAT muscial and > > > really don't see it actually happening. Everything is > > > small scale and very mickey mouse. There is no concrete > > > financial backing or advertising. Only subtle innuendo. > > > Since all this has started three years ago, I would've > > > thought it would have been quite a bit further along. > > > So everyone can continue to dream and post their wish > > > lists of songs, I think it is only going to ad up to more > > > or less a dream engine production. > > > | |
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