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rockfenris2005 06:46 am UTC 12/05/09 |
| In reply to: | Ryan, Great Plan But How Long Will The Show Last? - steven_stuart 11:50 pm UTC 12/04/09 |
| I didn’t put the songs in any order. I just imagined these would be the ones they’d go to first if they were going to make a “Bat…” musical. I know Jim said he wanted to use “Body”, “Still the Children” and “Who needs the young?” But now you mention it, I can see “Bat out of Hell” being an alright opening number because the opening verse would set the scene for the futuristic world for Obsidian (it’s still called that?) and Peter breaking out of the Asylum for the Chemically Insane (?) mesmerized by the image of Wendy? But here’s the list of characters I can see singing the songs (and these aren't meant to be in any specific order by the way.) BAT OUT OF HELL - Peter, Lost Boys and Obsidianites YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH (HOT SUMMER NIGHT) - Peter, Wendy and the Lost Boys HEAVEN CAN WAIT - Wendy and the marriage sequence ALL REVVED UP WITH NO PLACE TO GO - Peter TWO OUT OF THREE AIN’T BAD - Hook remembering PARADISE BY THE DASHBOARD LIGHT - If the Historian is still there it should serve the same function as “Keep on Truckin’” in “The Dream Engine” (if Jim still has the Historian, he doesn’t have to write any stage instructions or worry about producing any sort of spectacle because the Historian’s descriptive language would cover it all.) If not, Hook and Mrs. Hook looking back. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD - The Regeneration sequence, perhaps. I do see this as the finale. I’D DO ANYTHING FOR LOVE (BUT I WON’T DO THAT) - Peter & Wendy, the Abduction sequence? LIFE IS A LEMON AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK - Hook, definitely. This is a real Hook song. ROCK AND ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH - When I listen to the “Bad for Good” version, it feels like the end credits for a movie. But there are already two strong candidates for the closing number. OUT OF THE FRYING PAN (AND INTO THE FIRE) - Too many Peter songs, I don’t exactly know where this could be used. OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR - To me, this is Hook’s origins story and it makes him into a more fascinating complex villain. I have always been fascinated by the character of scary old Captain Hook. He can’t always have been an angry old man. EVERYTHING LOUDER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE - I definitely see this as a riot scene. LOST BOYS AND GOLDEN GIRLS - This would be the theme for the Lost Boys. WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG? - I can almost see this being done as a cabaret number at a hangout in Obsidian not entirely unlike The Dive (Have you seen the video for “If you were a woman (And I was a man)”? WHAT PART OF MY BODY HURTS THE MOST - I have no idea. WE’RE STILL THE CHILDREN WE ONCE WERE - I still don’t know how this and “For crying out loud” could be done as back to back finales. Both work. My 200 cents. > Great plan but which songs would you edit? How long will > the show last using your plan (taking into account that > speeches and a book will be included)? What in your > opinion is the longest amount of time the show can last > (including probably two intermissions - since there are > three acts)? > > I agree with you that BOOH the song should open the show > but there are those who think it should close either the > show or the first act. Could it open the show and then be > reprised to close the show? If yes, would the opening BOOH > the song need to be edited? What should be shorter, the > opener or the reprise? > > > JIM STEINMAN’S > > BAT OUT OF HELL > > A NEW MUSICAL SPECTACULAR > > > > BAT OUT OF HELL > > YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH (HOT SUMMER > > NIGHT) > > HEAVEN CAN WAIT > > ALL REVVED UP WITH NO PLACE TO GO > > TWO OUT OF THREE AIN’T BAD > > PARADISE BY THE DASHBOARD LIGHT > > FOR CRYING OUT LOUD > > I’D DO ANYTHING FOR LOVE (BUT I WON’T DO THAT) > > LIFE IS A LEMON AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK > > ROCK AND ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH > > OUT OF THE FRYING PAN (AND INTO THE FIRE) > > OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR* > > EVERYTHING LOUDER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE > > LOST BOYS AND GOLDEN GIRLS > > WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG? > > WHAT PART OF MY BODY HURTS THE MOST > > WE’RE STILL THE CHILDREN WE ONCE WERE > > > > * Yes, “OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR…” has already been > > recycled into “Tanz” but so has “WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG?” in > > the crypt sequence and Andrew Lloyd Webber recycled the > > main song from “The Beautiful Game” back into “The Phantom > > of the Opera” sequel. Plus, to me, although the music is > > the same, the lyrics are almost completely different in > > tone, feel and narrative. > > > > Note also: I didn’t include any of the “Batman” material > > with the exception of “Still the Children” which really > > does belong more to the story of “Neverland”, my opinion. > > The “Batman” material should be kept for “Batman” and Jim > > (or Scaramouche) could write a greater finale, i.e. “Dark > > entwined with darkness”. I know “Batman” is cancelled but > > you never really know what might be on the table if “Bat…” > > succeeds. I KNOW I said I didn’t mind if “Objects…” was > > recycled but that’s only 2 motifs from “Tanz…” as far as > > I’m aware. An exception here and there can’t hurt? > > > > Bottom line, I think Jim should use this opportunity to > > focus on the most famous “Bat” songs in a theatrical > > setting like he’s always want to? Leave the new material > > for something else, e.g. Bat: Conclusions or maybe even > > “Bat out of Hell: Angels Arise” starring Bryn Terfel, > > Sarah Brightman, Nightwish and the London Philharmonic… > > > > One can dream (engine.) > > | |
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