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Conas 12:53 pm UTC 10/24/10
In reply to: Conas - rockfenris2005 09:21 am UTC 10/24/10

Ryan, I was enthralled by that story and thanks very much for posting it. I remember hearing about the encounter with your high school principal a long time ago, it's a fascinating story indeed. You have been posting on the Rockman for 11 years? Wow, you have contributed so much to this forum. It's a pity that your demos on Realm of Dreams have been lost. Your version of "Confessions of a Vampire" was the first thing I listened to 5 years ago. I also liked your version of "Only when I feel". It's a pity you closed down "Radical Wizardry" too. I always visited that website, and I was a member of your forum too. It was always a great place, what happened to the member "Hero"? Is he still around?



> Ohhhhhhh I've had THE most colourful history on this
> forum!
> I remember back in my first year of high school, which was
> the year 1999, when I first had access to the internet and
> the first thing I did was search "Meat Loaf" and "Jim
> Steinman". That's how I found "Dream Pollution" and I
> immediately thought it was a terrific website, like an
> experience, like listening to one of the albums and gazing
> fondly at the cover art.
> And back then, it had a really awesome section with
> pictures called "The Gallery of Despair". It's still on
> the old version of the website on Internet Archives and
> you should check it out, just to see the artwork. It's a
> page with 3 of Jim's lyrics, basically, "Everything is
> permitted", "The future ain't what it used to be" and
> "Unsettled scores".
>
> As I said before, Jim led me to Andrew Lloyd Webber and
> Musical Theatre so imagine how surprised I was when I saw
> the announcement that Michael Crawford (My God, the
> Phantom Himself) starring in "Dance of the Vampires" which
> was actually going to open on Broadway in April 2002. And
> I hadn't even heard any of the music at that point.
> And then 9/11 happened...On the day of 9/11, that's when I
> began writing my play which I've been working on for
> almost 10 years now.
> So, of course, I was hugely excited about "Vampires" and I
> wanted to go to New York to see it if it was still open in
> 2003 or 2004.
>
> At first, I posted on a message forum at Neverland Hotel
> then I discovered the Rockman, at the worst possible
> point, the most turbulent period in Jim history on the
> web, IMHO. The opening of "Dance of the Vampires" on
> Broadway when the critics COMPLETELY TRASHED IT (picture
> it like the big stunt scenes in "Blues Brothers", it was
> ghastly) and Jim hadn't even turned up. It was a terrible
> time.
> That year, in high school, the Principal asked to speak to
> me and he said "do you want the good news first or the bad
> news?" And I said "The bad news, please, sir." "Alright,
> I'm very concerned that you wagged 200 classes this
> semester, very concerned indeed, but the performance you
> put on at the Talent Quest is, without a doubt, the most
> amazing performance I have seen in 25 years. I don't know
> what to do with you, Ryan.”
> And I WAS NOT LIKED ON ROCKMAN. I was 16 years old and a
> loud-mouth, the most emotional teenager I had ever met
> (haha) and I took everything seriously and there was no
> subtlety, and anything that possibly could have offended
> me was pointed out and addressed, and I did it in the most
> confronting way. And, DESERVEDLY, I went through a
> gauntlet.
>
> Over the years, it quietened down. Jim worked on
> "Wuthering Heights" and Ray released "The Confidence Man"
> CD. After "Vampires" folded, Michael Crawford was cast in
> "The Woman in White" and he had this song called "You can
> get away with anything" which I thought was hilarious for
> so many reasons.
> AND MEAT & JIM ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RELEASE A
> BAT 3. My God (again) and how exciting that would have
> been for so many of us.
> But then Jim was sick. Then "Over the top" in New York
> premiered 2 new songs, "Not allowed to love" from Batman
> (I still remember the awe I was in when I heard that
> recording) and "What part of my body hurts the most" which
> surely must have been from Bat 3, surely???
> Then Meat went out on tour in 2005 and premiered another
> new song "Only when I feel" which was then later played at
> "Over the Top" but so much better and so much more
> livelier than Meat's version, IMHO.
> Then there was the troubling news that Michael Beinhorn
> would be producing the 3rd Bat album, but never fear, many
> of us were still under the impression that Meat would
> still be recording Jim's new material. I mean, surely, he
> wouldn’t have done anything other (I still believe in him
> so much back then. And I will always remember us meeting
> in HMV Melbourne in 2003 when he was promoting CHSIB.)
>
> THEN DESMOND became the producer of "Bat 3" and I must
> admit I found that slightly worrying because I was never a
> Desmond fan and I didn't think he would be able to
> interpret the Steinman sound with all the subtlety it
> needed. I thought it would just be like white wash (And
> sure enough, it was.)
> THEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED that there would be NON-STEINMAN
> TRACKS on the album and I...I WAS FURIOUS and I begged
> Meat on MLUKFC not to go through with it. It HAD to be
> with Jim. And we actually FOUGHT over PM, Meat shouting at
> me and me rebutting every single argument he threw at me.
> But there was nothing I could do. Pudding said I didn't
> have a heart when I mentioned this story somewhere on the
> net before, but I do and my heart was literally ripped out
> of my body and stomped on and crushed into an oozing
> slurry just as the album was about to be released. How
> could Meat have done to this to us & Jim? I don’t care
> what his excuses were. He should have walked away and not
> done it. (And I know I will argue with others about this
> until the end of time and I don’t want to get into it
> again, PLZ.)
>
> But, no, never gotten over it, even though I tried to give
> TMIL a chance when I listened to it, hoping it might just
> be good. But no, it was a horrible disappointment, but
> it's also a lot more listenable than "Hang Cool Teddy
> Bear".
>
> 2007 WAS THE WORST YEAR OF MY LIFE, BAR NONE! It was so
> horrible. I don't even want to get INTO IT but it was just
> so, so, so awful, on Rockman, and everywhere else.
> It picked up in 2008 and 2009, but 2010 is the best state
> the board has been in since 2006. That was when we had the
> board that was like MLUKFC and I just remember it being
> really happy and positive back then. It was an awesome
> time. I came home from town when the new DVD store had
> just opened having bought all these bargains, and Jim was
> blogging, and everybody was buzzing about it on the new
> forum. If there's a Rockman in paradise, that's what it
> would be like.
> And 2010 is coming back around to where we were in 06.
>
> So yeah, thought I'd post that...
>
> And you are part of the Rockman Legend, Conas, so NEVER
> STOP POSTING.
>
> Ryan.


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