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rockfenris2005 04:47 am UTC 01/09/11 |
| In reply to: | re: What if..... - steven_stuart 04:09 am UTC 01/09/11 |
However, nobody ever connected with an audience using > Jim's material the way that Meat did. I've never really understood this. I thought Jim's performance on "Left in the dark" and Steve Barton's performance of everything in "Tanz" was just as powerful, if not more powerful than anything Meat did. Then there were other examples like Elaine Caswell on "It's all coming back to me now" and Michael Ball and Markus Lovett on "Unsettled Scores", and recently Darren on "Is nothing sacred". On the other hand, as much as I love "Dead Ringer", I think they almost spoiled it with Meat's vocals and the production. Meat just didn't sound as good on that album. As you say about Rob > Evan: "No offence to Rob Evan, but a singer who can't > bring emotional connection to the song simply doesn't work > for me no matter how well he reaches the notes." BOOH > might have sold a few million with Rob or Rory Dodd > singing lead vocals but surely it wouldn't have reached > the 42 million mark that it reached with Meat. But then I thought Rob's performance on "Land of the pig" was a lot more powerful than Meat's performance. He was much more subtle and menacing. Meat just screamed the whole thing. > > Maybe Jim could have formed a band called "Steinman", like > Carlos Santana fromed "Santana". Carlos Santana wrote the > music and played a great guitar but he used different > singers. Jim could have done that (playing brilliant piano > instead of brilliant guitar). I wish he had done something like this. > > > > This has probably been hypothesised on before.... > > > > What if Jim had released Bat himself without Meat? > > I do firmly believe Meat had some creative input on the > > album (the mix and the story of Paradise for example) > > however I am sure he could have done a similar job himself > > but obviously not with the power house vocals. > > > > Would the album have worked as well? > > > > I personally really like Bad for Good and simply don't > > hear the bad vocal that others are always on about. > > Perhaps I look at music a bit different and don't always > > care about who is fronting/singing the lyrics. Put Rob > > Evan on stage instead of Meat, same show I would leave the > > auditorium straight away I'm sure for example. No offence > > to Rob Evan, but a singer who can't bring emotional > > connection to the song simply doesn't work for me no > > matter how well he reaches the notes. > > > > I think there is a great deal of authenticity I hear in > > Jim's own vocals during Bad For Good / Left in The Dark / > > Graveyard Shift. > > > > I think Bat, the Jim way, would certainly not have been AS > > successful because of the lack of stunning vocals and the > > funny fat crazy character on stage. However I think if Jim > > had done this and kept plugging away at releasing albums > > there is no reason he couldn't have been as successful as > > say Bob Dylan or Mark Knopfler who I also regard as > > amazing song writers but below average singers, and once > > again that latter part I just don't seem to care about as > > much when you have the original emotional songwriters' > > voice and experience on stage/on the album. > > > > Does anyone agree? | |
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