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rockfenris2005 04:41 am UTC 04/17/11 |
| In reply to: | re: The demos of JIm singing - WarioLoaf 07:02 pm UTC 04/16/11 |
> man oh man your previous post and this one make me want to > scream. but its your opinion so I could care less. > > To me, I love bad attitude and BBIS. I rank them second > and third only after Bat 2. To me, meat is the force > behind BOOH. To me, it's four people. Four people are the force behind BOOH. Meat Loaf, the singer, Jim Steinman, the songwriter, Todd Rundgren, the producer, and Richard Corben, the illustrator of the fantasy cover art. > > BOOH is as much Meat's album as its Jim's album. Jim wrote > it and Meat sang it. Bat would never of worked without > Meat. With all due respect, we don't actually know that. Anything could have happened. > > Face it, Bat 3 went platinum and was a successful album. I wouldn't call it a successful album. I think the only reason it went platinum was because of the name. The people were tricked by the name. And we don't know what happened after they realized it was just a trick. > would've been better with Jim's production, but Meat made > it work without Jim. Well, IMO, Bat 3, or as I call it, TMIL, doesn't work. It's all over the place. Bat 3 wouldn't of worked without > Meat. Mmm, the trilogy had to be completed by both Meat Loaf and Jim, I agree, which is why TMIL is not that good, IMO again, but I'm not the only one who says that. > > This whole anti-loaf attitude I hate, but its an opinion > that must be acknowledged. I don't know if he's being anti-loaf. I think he simply just prefers Jim's voice, and I think there's nothing wrong with admitting that on a Steinman forum. > > Meat's tried to separate himself from Jim's song style on > HCTB and you all criticize him for it not sounding like a > Bat record. I never criticized him for it not sounding like a Bat record. I knew it was going to be something different and I was looking forward to that (I felt a lot more positive about this album then the nightmare that was TMIL). But having heard the results, I was disappointed. Now, if he were to try something different and it sounded great, that would be wonderful. Face it, the album imo kicks ass. and is far > superior to any steinman album released without Meat's > involvement. I think it's wrong to compare them. They're two different things and they're not trying to be alike. > > I am not anti-steinman. I just prefer Meat's work. From what I can see, Wolf isn't anti-loaf. He just prefers Jim's work. > > Gotta say this though, this is a fun debate. Oh yeah. I am enjoying this thread and hope we keep adding to it. > > > > You could argue that Jim copied Meat, but that argument > > would be very short and end with me turning with me in my > > yet unburied grave!. Jim didn't copy another performer > > when he went to sing his own songs, what sense does that > > make. Its been well documented that Jim taught Meat to > > sing his songs. I've no doubt that Meat put his own spin > > into the performance, but the majority of it is Jim's > > influence. Not discounting Meats efforts, its just Jim for > > me, is better, more emotion, more conviction and I believe > > what he's singing about 100 percent of the time. With > > Meat, for the reasons expressed before, its only half 50 > > percent. > > > > > > | |
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