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rockfenris2005 03:11 am UTC 05/16/11 |
| In reply to: | re: I've always been hella sceptical about that claim. - rockfenris2005 03:08 am UTC 05/16/11 |
> > And then there were the health problems. Meat Loaf told me > on his forum in a private message that Jim needed therapy > to play the piano again, which was going to take six > months, which in Meat's estimation would be a year. And he > didn't think he'd be able to perform in 5 years, and he > couldn't wait. He had to move forward. Only reason I mention that is because Meat's mentioned it since. It isn't very private anymore. I think he actually used this excuse quite often during the promotion. And if that's not how it really was, shame on him. > > Personally, I think he should have just cancelled. It > would have been much better if the album didn't exist at > all, and, you know, "Two out of three ain't bad..." ;-) > > It was a lot of things. We may only hear the complete > story later on in our lives when all these people are > dead. > > > I don't doubt it was his INTENTION to have all new stuff. > > Whether it would have ended that way, who knows. > > > > But like I say, you could just about piece an album > > together with the songs we DO have, much less the extra > > titles we haven't heard yet. So maybe I shouldn't be so > > critical. > > > > If you cast your mind back to 2004, you will remember a > > time when it was JIM saying "meat and I are doing Bat out > > of Hell 3', and the bit people couldn't get their head > > around is that it was MEAT who had just been saying that > > CHSIB would be his last. > > > > And then there was the presto-chango, and the roles > > reversed. Meat claims it was because of Jim's Health, > > which Sonnenberg strenuously denied. > > > > So what the HELL happened to change Jim from all systems > > go, to trying to nix the entire thing? Was it MEAT who > > refused to put in the effort to record his vocals (the > > whole "Peter Mokran going to produce my vocals" thing), or > > was it the record company not wanting to wait 6 years for > > the end result? > > > > MAYBE there is more Jim could have done from his end, in > > the initial stages, to make this lost album a reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's easy for Jim to say from the comfort of his desk > > > > chair with absolutely no onus to follow through. > > > > > > > > THAT SAID, the wealth of stuff we've had kicking around in > > > > the time since, what part of my body, speaking in tongues, > > > > cry to heaven, land of the pig, re-tooled versions of > > > > braver than we are, still the children… it's entirely > > > > possible I guess! > > > > > > > > The most suspicious part of that whole affair is that Jim > > > > claims one of his titles (in fact I think he claimed > > > > SONGS, implying its a little more finished) that he had > > > > ALREADY shown to meat was The Monster is Out Of The Cage. > > > > Having Desmond and John 5 come along and do Monster is > > > > Loose must really have been salt in the wound for Jim. > > > > > > > > If Meat ever wants to talk to Jim again, he really went > > > > the wrong way about it. > > > > > > > > > > I, for one, believe him. Call me naive, and perhaps I am. > > > But imagine the look on people's faces if he suddenly > > > posted the demos for "Paradise lost" and "The monster is > > > out of the cage". > > > > > > I was pissed off about TMIL, but Jim definitely made it > > > worse when he started mentioning all these songs... and I > > > really knew what it could have been. For heaven's sake, it > > > really would have been a new album, "Braver", I think, > > > being the exception. > > > > > > I see that list, and I just want to yell and scream at > > > Meat Loaf and Desmond Child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dont be so sure, according to Jim's blog, Bat 3 would have > > > > > had entirely new songs had he been in control. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bat 2 should > > > > > > > have been entirely new songs, or at least most of them > > > > > > > should have been > > > > > > > > > > > > The speed Jim works at, we'd probably still be waiting. | |
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