I know they talked about doing as early as 84 if sources are to be believed, but the fact that both Jim and Meat were busy with their own solo works, I think alot of Meat's voice during the periods between the two Bats, both good and bad, was down to Meat himself, but I suppose it's possible Jim listened to Meat's solo records and gave him tips I guess.
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> > But his best work (From the two Bat albums) most
> > certiantly had Jim's "help", not a discredit to Meat, just
> > shows how obessive Jim is.
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> And what makes you think that he wasn't reteaching him in
> 1985, 1987, 1988, and 1989?
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