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Jacob 02:47 pm UTC 03/14/07 |
| In reply to: | Jim's recycled music - rockfenris2005 04:42 pm UTC 03/13/07 |
| I've discovered that pieces of "The Storm" are quite similar with pieces of the intro to "Seize The Night", but that could just be me. > This was mentioned below so I came up with a rough list of > what's been reused over the last 40 years. By all means, > discuss, debate and add to it > > QUOTE: > > THE INVOCATION AND FORMATION OF THE TRIBE. "Turn around" > would form the verses for "Total Eclipse Of The Heart" > after they featured, musically, as a love theme in "A > Small Circle Of Friends". An abridged version with the > chorus would appear in Meat Loaf's 1982 tour (performed by > Ted Neely). > > WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG? The music for the opening verses > would become the opening half of "In The Crypt" in "Tanz > Der Vampire" > > HYMN TO FIRE (WHEN YOUR CITY'S BURNING). The opening riff > would become "The Storm" on "Bad For Good" and then the > Overture for "Tanz Der Vampire" > > ENTR'ACTE. All three sections were later recycled, the > first becoming the guitar solo in "Stark Raving Love" on > "Bad For Good", the second becoming "Happy Ending" for > Yvonne Elliman and the climax, which was also a full song > "Song Of The Dream Engine (Hear The Screams)" would become > the second half of "Bad For Good" > > MOTHER RIVER SONG. This is based on GANGES RIVER from > Bertolt Brecht's play "A Man's A Man" which, in a > production at Amherst College, happened to be Jim's first > professional score. > > SONG OF THE DREAM ENGINE (HEAR THE SCREAMS). Musically, > and the lines "God speed", would appear as the second half > of "Bad For Good" > > LET THE REVELS BEGIN. Musically, this reappears as the > intro to the Neverland version of "All Revved Up With No > Place To Go", later combined with the Meat Loaf '82 tour > rendition of "Come In The Night". The lines "let the > revels begin" were most famously reused in "Tonight Is > What It Means To Be Young" > > CHINKACHAIN. "Forging and toiling... and seething and > boiling" is the music for the instrumental in "The > Graveyard Shift", before the end. The instrumental that > takes the song out would form a substantial part in "The > Hunt" from "Neverland", an instrumental sequence as Tink > is expelled from the pack > > MASTER OF THE EARTH. This features the first (as far as we > know) appearance of the little "Hunt" riff that became the > opening of "The Hunt" in "Neverland", appearing in nearly > all of Jim's theatrical scores > > HUSHABYE. This sounds like an operatic version of > "Midnight Serenade" ("Our love is a secret / Our love is a > word...") > > FINALE (RAINBOW). The opening riff would become a more > specific intro to "Lost Boys And Golden Girls" (someone > with musical understanding explain this) and then the full > song would be pasted in as the second half of "Song Of The > City Of Hope" in "More Than You Deserve" the musical > > THE SONG OF DEFENSELESSNESS (The Good Person Of Szechuan). > This has very similar lyrics to Jim's lyrics for "Gods" in > "Neverland". Jim scored a production of this Brecht play > in the early 1970s. > > MORE THAN YOU DESERVE OVERTURE. This features the second > appearance of the little "Hunt" riff (take note of this) > > GIVE ME THE SIMPLE LIFE. The dance routine is the music > for the second half of "Mother River Song" in "The Dream > Engine" while the second half of the song is the second > half of "Bad For Good" > > COME WITH ME. The introduction to one of Jim's favourite > chord progressions forming the basis of the verses in "For > Crying Out Loud", the conclusion to "Let The Revels > Begin", a slight variation in "Tonight Is What It Means To > Be Young", the chorus for "The Future Ain't What It Used > To Be" and the opening and closing verse of "Seize The > Night" (and these are only the known uses!) > > TO FEEL SO NEEDED. It begins to sound like the music for > "Something Of This Masquerade May Follow" from "The > Confidence Man" but then it changes. It's quite possible > Jim revisited this for inspiration for that song. Of > course "Masquerade" would musically form the choruses of > "Braver Than We Are" > > GO GO GO GUERILLAS. Only the intro is recycled as "The > Joker's Song (Wonderful Toys)" in "Batman". > > IF ONLY. The lines "if only..." are the same as "Carpe > Noctem..." which the monks chant in "Seize The Night" > > SONG OF THE GOLDEN EGG. The chorus, or the upbeat section, > reappears in "God Has Left The Building" over the top of a > piece recycled from the instrumental of the Neverland > version of "All Revved Up" (which, when orchestrated, > became the symphonic climax to "The Storm". Following?) > > PRIVATE OF PRIVATES. This has the same intro as "Death Is > Such An Odd Thing" from "Tanz Der Vampire" and the same > chord progression as "It's Your Life" from "The Confidence > Man", but only in the verses. The second half becomes the > first bit of the instrumental of the "Neverland" version > of "All Revved Up" which was played at the end of "Come In > The Night" on Meat Loaf's 1982 tour (ending with the > upbeat finale to "The Hunt" from "Neverland") now famously > recycled as the bridge in "Holding Out For A Hero" (the > underscoring behind "Out where the mountains meet the > heavens above...") > > NEW ORLEANS IS COMIN' TO ME. The whole song is musically > (and some lyrically) recycled as "The Future Ain't What It > Used To Be" dropping the lively "Means Somethin'" > sequence > > EDGING INTO DARKNESS. The music for the first and second > verses and the two choruses is the music for the second > half of "Bad For Good". The next bit ("I'd sacrifice > myself at any price...") became the guitar solo on "Bat > Out Of Hell" finishing up with ("Steal away, angel, steal > away...") which is the intro / classic opening riff to > "Making Love Out Of Nothing At All". Before its hit > appearance, it was another theme in "A Small Circle Of > Friends" > > METHINKS. This has been referred to as a careful variation > of the tune for "Go Go Go Guerillas" obviously without the > Joker riff. > > NOCTURNALLY YOURS. The opening riff became another theme > in "A Small Circle Of Friends" and the climactic verses in > "Dark Night Of The Soul" in "Garbo: The Musical" > > PAIN HUMBLES. This features the third appearance of the > little "Hunt" riff, the instrumental becoming a part of > "The Storm" > > MILADY. The whole tune was removed as underscoring for "A > Small Circle Of Friends" then made over, musically, with a > new key change, as "For Sarah" in "Tanz Der Vampire" > > SOMETHING OF THIS MASQUERADE MAY FOLLOW. The music for the > first two lines of each chorus is the chorus for "Braver > Than We Are" from "Tanz Der Vampire". The second bit is > the music for the verses of the Rory Dodd / Everly Bros. > version of "A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste". The song > ends with a reprise of the chorus of "New Orleans" which > is that same "Come With Me" riff endlessly reused. > > ALL REVVED UP WITH NO PLACE TO GO. The first half of the > instrumental for the "Neverland" version would be drawn > upon for "God Has Left The Building" in "Dance Of The > Vampires". The second half became the intro to "Bat Out Of > Hell" in the Meat Loaf version > > CITY NIGHT. This was musically recycled as "Bless The > Night / Bless The Man" in "Tanz Der Vampire" when Krolock > welcomes Professor Abronsius and Alfred to his castle. > This is interspersed with parts of "Midnight Serenade" > ("Our love is a secret...") which appeared in "Neverland" > too > > MIDNIGHT SERENADE. The instrumental with the monologue is > very close to the conclusion for Jim's version for "Left > In The Dark" > > GODS. Recycled as "Bolero", the opening instrumental of > Meat's original 70s tour, finally used as the music for > "Eternity" in "Tanz Der Vampire" > > YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH. The music for > the opening lines ("It was a hot summer night and the > beach was burning / There was fog crawling over the > sand...") is the same as the music for the chorus in "Read > 'Em And Weep" ("If I could only find the words then I > would write it all down / If I could only find the voice I > would speak...") > > DELTA HOUSE THEME. The music is the embryo for "Dead > Ringer For Love" concluding with the lines "The things > they say and the things they do" which reappear in > "Tonight Is What It Means To Be Young" > > THE STORM. This features the fourth appearance of the > little "Hunt" riff in the second half > > STARK RAVING LOVE. Yes, the intro is most obviously the > same intro for "Holding Out For A Hero" except slower. > > OUT OF THE FRYING PAN (AND INTO THE FIRE). Features the > same intro as the Rory Dodd / Everly Bros. version of "A > Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste" > > SURF'S UP. The intro became the instrumental in "The > Future Ain't What It Used To Be" and then the music for > the new sections of "Angels Arise" in its "Dance Of The > Vampires" incarnation ("There are things that must be > magic / No explaining why or how..." etc.) while the > opening lines are the same musically as the opening lines > for "Objects In The Rear View Mirror" > > MORE THAN YOU DESERVE. The intro for the "Dead Ringer" > version reappears as the intro for "The Future Ain't What > It Used To Be". It also became the "Overture" and the > intro for "Something Of This Masquerade May Follow" > written for the 1986 production of "The Confidence Man" > > I'LL KILL YOU IF YOU DON'T COME BACK. The last bits (i.e. > "Damn you / And curse you / After all that you've done / > You're the one girl I'll never forget...") are similar to > the last bit in "Confession Of A Vampire" ("I believe in > just one god / That of endless and insatiable / Amoral, > indestructible / And all consuming appetite...") from > "Tanz Der Vampire" > > NOWHERE FAST. The "Streets Of Fire" uses a riff from "The > Storm" as its intro. The song climaxes with "God speed..." > most famously used in "Bad For Good" > > TONIGHT IS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE YOUNG. Made over as "Dance > Of The Vampires", the finale for "Tanz Der Vampire" > > HULK HOGAN'S THEME. This is, basically, the instrumental > track for "Ravishing" on "Secret Dreams And Forbidden > Fire" > > LOVING YOU IS A DIRTY JOB. The intro first appears as a > theme in "A Small Circle Of Friends" > > REBEL WITHOUT A CLUE. The intro is similar to the intro to > "You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth" except darker > and grittier. > > ORIGINAL SIN. This would become a major theme in "Tanz Der > Vampire" > > SAFE SEX. The lines "We'll never be as young as this / No > matter how we try we grow..." etc. are the same, > musically, as "You'll always be here with me / You're a > ghost and I've been cursed..." > > REQUIEM METAL. The screaming voices of the choir are > sampled in the intro for "Rude Awakening" and later in the > intense part of the Bat II "Wasted Youth" monologue > > THE OPENING OF THE BOX. This is a sample of the actual > track for the second half of "The Storm", documenting the > fifth appearance of the little "Hunt" riff. > > IT JUST WON'T QUIT. The intro and the opening verse is the > music for "Melville's Theme" in "The Confidence Man", not > recorded for the CD > > THE FUTURE AIN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE. Begins with the > intro's from "More Than You Deserve" and "Something Of > This Masquerade May Follow", goes into the main song which > is, musically and structurally, "New Orleans Is Comin' To > Me", climaxing with the instrumental being the intro to > "Surf's Up" finishing off with a reference to "For Crying > Out Loud", the brief soft piano bit that bridges the > gigantic chorus to the finale of the song. > > MORE. The chorus by Jim Steinman was fully expanded into a > song for "Batman" and believably "Bat Out Of Hell 2100" > > OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR. Jim would cleverly > recycle the tune in a new dramatic / operatic version for > "Tanz Der Vampire" > > EVERYTHING LOUDER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE. The opening verses > resemble the verses for "Garlic" in "Tanz Der Vampire" > > BACK INTO HELL. The crazy little riff introduced in the > Bat II version of "Good Girls Go To Heaven" became the > lead-in for the upbeat section of "Seize The Night" > > THE GRAVEYARD SHIFT. A clever re-invention of the second > half of "Bad For Good" > > THE CATWOMAN'S SONG (I NEED ALL THE LOVE I CAN GET). This > features the sixth appearance of the little "Hunt" riff > then, with this exact track, utilized in versions of "God > Has Left The Building". > > CITY OF BLACK AND WHITE. This features the last major > theme to be recycled from "A Small Circle Of Friends" > given a fresh new extension and lively variation > DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL. The "dark night! dark night!" bit > is the same as the second half of "Mother River Song" > except a lot more dramatic and powerful > > CRY TO HEAVEN. The second recycling of the Batman "Angels > Arise" > | |
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