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re: Meat Loaf vs. Bonnie Tyler In the Jim Steinman Power Ballad Battle

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Markus 01:09 pm UTC 11/10/12
In reply to: Meat Loaf vs. Bonnie Tyler In the Jim Steinman Power Ballad Battle - Jacqueline 11:42 pm UTC 11/09/12

Ha, that was nice to read. :-) Nice little comparison - of course they seem to be the most known ballads by Jim. But WE know he did so many more great anthems!
One thing IŽll never get is this part: "... cuts out an entire verse that's unnecessary..." I NEVER EVER felt that any single word he wrote was unnecessary. I love them all.

Markus

>
> http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2012/11/jim_steinman_power_ballad_batt.php
>
> Classic Rock Corner
> Meat Loaf vs. Bonnie Tyler In the Jim Steinman Power
> Ballad Battle
>
>
> Screengrab via Jim Steinman's website.
> This image says so much about Mr. Steinman.
> Allmusic.com describes the work of Jim Steinman as
> theatrical, visceral and rousing. It also describes it as
> campy, indulgent, and silly. They're exactly right: His
> work is all of those things, which is why it's awesome.
> A member of the Songwriting Hall of Fame, Steinman is best
> known as the Bernie Taupin to Meat Loaf's Elton John,
> although he also wrote hit songs for Air Supply, Celine
> Dion, and, as we'll get to shortly, Bonnie Tyler.
> Recently Steinman turned 65 and rather than the typical
> deep cuts/greatest hits/Wikipedia rewrite that would be
> more appropriate for his 50th birthday, I instead feel now
> is as good a time as any to answer the following
> question:
> What is the greatest power ballad of all time, as written
> by Jim Steinman?
>
> Tale of the Tape:
> Contender No. 1
> "Total Eclipse of the Heart"
> Performed by: Bonnie Tyler
> From the Album: Faster Than the Speed of Night
> Released: 1983
> Running Time: 7:02 (album), 4:30 (single)
>
> Contender No. 2
> "I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)"
> Performed by: Meat Loaf
> From the album: Bat Out Of Hell II: Back Into Hell
> Released: 1993
> Running Time: 12:01 (album), 5:25 (single)
> Round 1: Which track has the better main vocal
> performance?
> Although on the whole she's a great singer, Tyler comes
> off a bit cold in large parts of this track. The moment
> she hits "I really need you tonight" near the end of the
> track it's wonderful, but a lot of her vocals elsewhere in
> the song are kind of flat.
> Meat Loaf is pretty stellar over the duration of his song,
> emotive the moment he steps up to the microphone. And when
> he finally hits the big version of the chorus at 7:02?
> Magic.
> "I'd Do Anything": 1 "Total Eclipse": 0
> Round 2: Which track has better backup vocals and
> instrumentation?
> This is a surprisingly close one. Musically I put them at
> roughly the same level, with "Total Eclipse" having a
> better melody but "I'd Do Anything" having better
> production value. It also has the weird but awesome
> motorcycle intro whereas all "Total Eclipse" has is those
> weird booms as it goes in to the instrumental break. What
> really broke the tie here is the other vocalists: Rory
> Dodd's vocals on the "turn around bright eyes" feel like
> they clash with the song while Lorraine Crosby holds her
> own with Meat Loaf in her duet section.
> "I'd Do Anything": 2 "Total Eclipse": 0
>
> Continued from page 1
>
>
> Round 3: Which track is easier to understand?
> While its vocals and music are great, "I'd Do Anything"
> does have one major problem: People seem to have a real
> hard time comprehending what the song is about. It seems
> there are many, including whomever wrote the bubbles on
> Pop-Up Video, that don't know what "that" thing that Meat
> Loaf wouldn't do is.
> You could argue that these people have a point; although
> the song does explain what "that" is it does so in a
> pretty roundabout fashion. As for "Total Eclipse," I've
> never once heard anyone complain that they didn't know
> what Tyler was singing about. Sometimes you win by not
> losing.
> "I'd Do Anything": 2 "Total Eclipse": 1
> Round 4: Which track would you rather sing?
> I've never once heard anyone sing "I'd Do Anything" at
> karoke. I've never seen anyone cover it. Although I've
> seen it on a few people's mix CDs I rarely see anyone
> singing along to it in the car. On the other hand most
> people seem to love singing "Total Eclipse."
> You get someone who thinks they have a decent singing
> voice, get a little bit of alcohol in them, and start the
> song and they'll be belting it out like there's no
> tomorrow. I assume this goes back to the "ease of
> understanding" thing; because we understand "Total
> Eclipse" better it's easier for us to sing it.
> "I'd Do Anything": 2 "Total Eclipse": 2
> Round 5: Which track makes the best use of its running
> time?
> At 7:02 and 12:01 these songs aren't exactly short. Even
> the versions released as singles are way longer than the
> average track that hits radio. I think most people feel
> that the single release of "Total Eclipse" is the best. It
> cuts out an entire verse that's unnecessary as evidenced
> by the fact that no one knows any of the lyrics to it.
> This round goes to "I'd Do Anything," because at the end
> of the day it is Steinman at his most Steinman; it has a
> mock motorcycle intro that takes up the first 30 seconds
> of the song, the big version of the hook doesn't hit for
> seven minutes, and you don't even find out there's a duet
> part for almost ten. And yet it's perfect just the way it
> is.
> Final Verdict:
> While they're both great songs, in the end "I'd Do
> Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)" takes the battle
> three rounds to two, and thus is the best power ballad
> that Jim Steinman or anyone else has ever written.


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