| re: Cliff Richard And Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell | |
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ricgough 10:55 pm UTC 04/17/13 |
| In reply to: | Cliff Richard And Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell - steven_stuart 10:35 pm UTC 04/12/13 |
> > Cliff was fine in Heathcliff the musical and he has done a > > lot of great songs over the years but i don't think he > > would be a good fit for RARDCT. > > Is there any Jim song you can see him covering? > > > Yes Heathcliff did very well but that was due to the huge > > amount of cliff fans who went. > > Take cliff out and the show doesn't do as well at the box > > office probably. > > I agree. I don't think Heathcliff has been produced > without Cliff in it. Although I am not sure. It did > feature lyrics by Tim Rice. > > Heathcliff is a fairly dark character. Like with his song > Devil Woman, I think it proves that there is another side > to Cliff. > > Jim was actually positive about him having a go at RARDCT. > He even offered to change it so that it was more suitable > for Cliff. > > This was several years ago now, so I have no idea if Jim > would still be interested. Cliff was positive but his > manager delayed and delayed. > > Cliff's manager agreed with you, that RARDCT is not > suitable for Cliff. But the manager is a friend and they > are still trying to change his mind. There is still a > possibility, even though Jim has probably forgotten about > it by now. > > One has to remember that Cliff has sold more singles in > the UK than The Beatles or Elvis and he was certainly rock > and roll when he first became famous. > > That might make him attractive to Jim but it also might > make his manager more guarded about Cliff's new projects. > > > > So unless cliff was in the BOOH musical then its not > > really a draw point for his fans.. > > No, it's just that it might give Jim and Cliff a singles > hit. > > > You are right though that if cliff did record a song it > > may well be a hit due to the size his loyal fanbase and it > > would give the show some publicity but would that > > translate into ticket sales? > > ALW and Cliff released a single from Phantom (which Jim > almost wrote the lyrics for) and that was great publicity > for the show, even though Cliff was not in the show. > > It's interesting that Jim and Cliff have sometimes worked > with the same people. > > Some would say that Cliff isn't hard enough for Jim but > what about Air Supply and Barry Manilow? > > > Those of us who were born before BOOH came out and have > > lived with it for our whole lives don't need to be sold > > the idea as much as people who were born post 1990. > > Yes. This is true. I loved Meat Loaf when they first > played the BOOH song film on The Old Grey Whistle Test. > Nobody knew who Meat was and then suddenly the record > shops are inundated with requests. Then Meat and Karla > perform Paradise live on the same show a while later and > the rest is history. Gosh. Karla was very popular at > boarding school. > > However, trying to sell a musical that does not involve > Meat Loaf will not be easy and they will need all the help > that they can get to sell "Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of > Hell". > > Fortunately, Jim the great writer appeals to many > different types of people. I have no doubt that people who > like Cliff might also like Jim. > > But, as you point out, the young need to be sold on Jim's > music. Any suggestions? It would be difficult to get > Justin Bieber or One Direction to record For Crying Out > Loud. But maybe. > > Thanks for an interesting conversation. Pah; WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG?!!!! FUCK 'EM! (And if you think Cliff would ever deliver those lines you have another thing coming - nor anything remotely Jim-like in relation to sexuality....) | |
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