| re: Jim vs Def Leppard | |
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Jan 02:49 pm UTC 10/13/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Jim vs Def Leppard - steven_stuart 04:28 am UTC 10/12/13 |
| > Was the trouble that Jim is not into heavy metal (even > though his rock can be quite heavy at times)? > > I guess that Mutt Lange is much more into basic metal. I > liked his AC/DC album Back In Black (but I prefer BOOH). > > Jan said in the first post of this thread: "When they > teamed up with Jim Steinman, they expected big things. > What they got was a huge food bill." > > Maybe they wanted a "big" production like Total Eclipse. In the old interviews Jim mentions he was offered to produce Black Sabbath and lots of heavy metal bands in the 80s. It seems that Jim likes certain things in heavy metal, power chords, Marshall amps etc. The bigness and power of the sound. He's had long hair most of his life so he looks like the players of the genre too. Jim seems to like Led Zeppelin. The fast ending of 'All Revved Up' being his "tribute" to Zeppelin. I'd say Mutt Lange is an expert in making commercial hard rock/pop records that sound good on the radio. Wouldn't say he's a heavy metal producer. I think he recently produced Nickelback. There was a program on VH1 called 'Ultimate Albums' which had an episode of Def Leppard's 'Pyromania'. Very torturous recording process according to band members with all the multiple takes. It took a very long time to complete the album. Leppard guys wanted the "big" sound they had on 'Pyromania' (that took ages to get) and Jim's way of doing thing seemed to the band, I guess, "sloppy"... All the drums were programmed on 'Pyromania', so the drummer Rick Allen didn't actually play on the album. That's why Jim was confused when Allen said to him "I really want to play on this album"(mentioned in Jim's Amherst speech). There is one photo (perhaps the only one)of Jim and Def Leppard in the studio. It's quite telling. Jim's smiling, Joe Elliot looks uncomfortable and I think there was only one member of the band smiling along with Jim. Have you seen the photo? I remember Jim saying he was fed up with the band but couldn't quit the project because then he wouldn't have been paid what they eventually paid him. He had to wait until they fired him. | |
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