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re: Alive is the best track there for me.

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rockfenris2005 02:03 pm UTC 04/01/07
In reply to: Alive is the best track there for me. - Wilbury 12:28 pm UTC 04/01/07



> For me, the far and away best track on the entire album in
> every way (production, arrangement and ESPECIALLY Meat's
> vocal performance) is ALIVE, hands down.

It sounds like everything else Desmond Child does. He hasn't bothered to make it to sound like the previous BATS or even anything that Meat's done. It's like a freak Bon Jovi to me, like they injected them and they turned it into The Incredible Hulk.
>
> To me, the album would be about a million per cent better
> if they dropped the title track altogether and put Monstro
> / Alive as the opening track, with the Spanish lines
> dropped entiirely (what's the relevance there?!?) and
> added some ambient motorbike grumbling at the beginning of
> the organ intro.

I don't get the Spanish thing either. And why label the bat a monster? I always thought the bat was something more interesting, like a god, or a fallen angel, or a vampire that transforms into a towering figure igniting New York.
>
> I mean, as long as it's trying to use the Bat name anyway,
> it may as well put in a LITTLE fucking effort to have
> earned it, right? (Why is there even a motorbike on the
> front cover? Did theys top and think about what they were
> doing at ALL?)

The front cover doesn't make sense, conceptually. The title doesn't make sense conceptually. On the first album we very clearly see that it's a guy erupting out of hell, in a cemetery, because he's died and gone to hell, yet he's breaking out of hell and there's a big bat.

In the sequel, he's riding back into hell, he's going "BACK INTO HELL". If you go OUT of hell, surely you must go BACK INTO HELL. Wtf has THE MONSTER IS LOOSE got to do with any of this? And why would the bat breathe fire? It's totally out of sync with the previous two. If there is any shred of continuum between the BATS, they obviously disregarded it here.

I think Jim's idea is better but FINAL AT BAT sounds like a lame title. That is, if you miss the baseball reference (which is a throwback to "Paradise" etc.)
>
> (as well as a whole lot of other tweaks that are needed,
> obviously. Not least of all drop Cry To Heaven and try to
> forget that meat's attempt at singing it ever happened.

It's just a lame song altogether, IMO. Jim also includes it in the list for THE REAL BAT III. Why? The full one from "Batman" is the most effective. Why deny the world that beautiful song?

> And re-edit Break It into something a little more tight
> and less long-winded).
>

Or not use it at all. It's got to be the worst Jim song ever. It's like he's not even trying.
>
>
> > I agree that Blind is a Bat is probaly the finest track.
> >
> > But the other two are a little bit lame "Cry Over Me" has
> > a little bit of emotion attached too it, and I'm sure a
> > lot of people can relate to that song. But "If God Could
> > Talk" does nothing, it's as dry as a loaf of bread then
> > again that's my own personal opinion. Different songs
> > affect people in different ways LOL..
> >
> >

"If God Could Talk" doesn't make any sense in context with the rest of the lyric. It's like they said, "yep, this is Meat Loaf, re-write the first line so it's more like a Meat Loaf song."





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