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Evan 09:25 am UTC 05/07/21 |
In reply to: | re: Memories - rockfenris2005 06:00 pm UTC 05/02/21 |
Do you have any idea some of the song titles for songs intended for Nutz? > > Jim early on in his career wanted to write and sing > Country and Western style music. The "More Than You > Deserve" demo with Jim and the one for "For Crying Out > Loud" in "Kid Champion" has a Country and Western feeling. > They should both be on YouTube. > > This is not what we heard though, by the time we get to > "Bat out of Hell". It was like he wanted to go back and > revisit that part of his life as well, and "Two out of > Three" had started that way when he wrote it (it was the > last song written for the album.) > > I hope Nutz still happens, considering both Jim and Terry > Jones have passed on now. It would be a great way to > honour both of their memories and how much their work > meant to a lot of people. > > > I forgot all about the Bat out of Nashville album. What a > > strange concept. I wonder how it originated? I only song > > from that album that I think could’ve benefited from a > > country treatment is Two Out Of Three. The others would’ve > > been strange but possibly cool. I just can’t imagine Garth > > Brooks belting out Bat Out Of Hell and it not sounding > > strange. > > > > Ahh the lost projects. I was looking at the photos of Jim > > on this site. There’s one of him with Terry Gilliam. > > Remember the rock Nutcracker project I think called Nutz? > > There were supposedly some songs composed by Jim for it. I > > wonder if they’ll ever see the light of day? Who will be > > the one to release them from the Vaults Of Steinman? > > > > > > > > There was so much going on in that era that might have > > > been really exciting for Jim: > > > > > > * A "Bat out of Nashville" album, taking songs from the > > > two Bat albums and two new songs, and turning them into a > > > country album. > > > > > > * Jim was working with Karine, who might have had huge > > > hits with "Safe Sex", "Braver" and "Making Love". > > > > > > * Jim was writing "Batman: The Musical". Tim Burton was > > > going to direct it at one point. > > > > > > * "Dance of the Vampires" was coming to Broadway. > > > > > > * Meat and Jim were going to reunite again for "Bat out of > > > Hell III" and "What Part of my Body Hurts the Most?" could > > > have been the big single from it. > > > > > > As we know, it didn't work out that way. I'm so glad > > > "Braver" and the "Bat" musical did. > > > > > > > > > > Man, you really brought back some memories with the Garbo > > > > and Anastasia recordings. I had forgotten all about them. > > > > I’ll definitely have to eventually go through and give > > > > them another listen. I really thought Karine’s hit > > > > should’ve been Safe Sex. That song always seemed like a > > > > hit just waiting to be properly recorded. It sums up the > > > > emotions perfectly. You see a title called Safe Sex and > > > > that song’s subject matter really takes you by surprise. > > > > It’s really perfect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And he still had some great moments after that. Just would > > > > > have loved to see him and Karine have a Number 1 with > > > > > "Braver" and "Not Allowed" for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking back, the late 90s was such an amazing time for > > > > > > Jim. He was really on top of the world. I was only a kid > > > > > > then, and couldn't really experience it the way the older > > > > > > members did. Remember, he'd just done "It's All Coming > > > > > > Back", "Bat II" before that, "Whistle down the Wind" had > > > > > > opened in London, "No matter what" was everywhere, "Tanz" > > > > > > was winning IMAGE awards in Europe, there was talk of an > > > > > > English production, Jim was going to write "Batman", he'd > > > > > > produced the theme for "The Mask of Zorro" by the guys who > > > > > > wrote "My heart will go on", he even produced a song for > > > > > > the cartoon "Anastasia". It was just such an amazing time, > > > > > > and that's right as Ravenous is being announced. We know > > > > > > he's working on "Garbo" and "Wuthering Heights". > > > > > > > > > > > > Then "Dance of the Vampires" happens and ughhh. I feel > > > > > > like that's the moment where it all went wrong, but hey he > > > > > > managed thirty really wonderful years before that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gosh I remember seeing it at the time and having these > > > > > > > delusions of grandeur about Jim releasing so many projects > > > > > > > on his very own label. It seems he did release a few > > > > > > > though, as you pointed out. | |
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