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re: Memories

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rockfenris2005 06:00 pm UTC 05/02/21
In reply to: re: Memories - Evan 09:08 am UTC 05/02/21


Jim early on in his career wanted to write and sing Country and Western style music. The "More Than You Deserve" demo with Jim and the one for "For Crying Out Loud" in "Kid Champion" has a Country and Western feeling. They should both be on YouTube.

This is not what we heard though, by the time we get to "Bat out of Hell". It was like he wanted to go back and revisit that part of his life as well, and "Two out of Three" had started that way when he wrote it (it was the last song written for the album.)

I hope Nutz still happens, considering both Jim and Terry Jones have passed on now. It would be a great way to honour both of their memories and how much their work meant to a lot of people.

> I forgot all about the Bat out of Nashville album. What a
> strange concept. I wonder how it originated? I only song
> from that album that I think could’ve benefited from a
> country treatment is Two Out Of Three. The others would’ve
> been strange but possibly cool. I just can’t imagine Garth
> Brooks belting out Bat Out Of Hell and it not sounding
> strange.
>
> Ahh the lost projects. I was looking at the photos of Jim
> on this site. There’s one of him with Terry Gilliam.
> Remember the rock Nutcracker project I think called Nutz?
> There were supposedly some songs composed by Jim for it. I
> wonder if they’ll ever see the light of day? Who will be
> the one to release them from the Vaults Of Steinman?
>
> >
> > There was so much going on in that era that might have
> > been really exciting for Jim:
> >
> > * A "Bat out of Nashville" album, taking songs from the
> > two Bat albums and two new songs, and turning them into a
> > country album.
> >
> > * Jim was working with Karine, who might have had huge
> > hits with "Safe Sex", "Braver" and "Making Love".
> >
> > * Jim was writing "Batman: The Musical". Tim Burton was
> > going to direct it at one point.
> >
> > * "Dance of the Vampires" was coming to Broadway.
> >
> > * Meat and Jim were going to reunite again for "Bat out of
> > Hell III" and "What Part of my Body Hurts the Most?" could
> > have been the big single from it.
> >
> > As we know, it didn't work out that way. I'm so glad
> > "Braver" and the "Bat" musical did.
> >
> >
> > > Man, you really brought back some memories with the Garbo
> > > and Anastasia recordings. I had forgotten all about them.
> > > I’ll definitely have to eventually go through and give
> > > them another listen. I really thought Karine’s hit
> > > should’ve been Safe Sex. That song always seemed like a
> > > hit just waiting to be properly recorded. It sums up the
> > > emotions perfectly. You see a title called Safe Sex and
> > > that song’s subject matter really takes you by surprise.
> > > It’s really perfect.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > And he still had some great moments after that. Just would
> > > > have loved to see him and Karine have a Number 1 with
> > > > "Braver" and "Not Allowed" for example.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking back, the late 90s was such an amazing time for
> > > > > Jim. He was really on top of the world. I was only a kid
> > > > > then, and couldn't really experience it the way the older
> > > > > members did. Remember, he'd just done "It's All Coming
> > > > > Back", "Bat II" before that, "Whistle down the Wind" had
> > > > > opened in London, "No matter what" was everywhere, "Tanz"
> > > > > was winning IMAGE awards in Europe, there was talk of an
> > > > > English production, Jim was going to write "Batman", he'd
> > > > > produced the theme for "The Mask of Zorro" by the guys who
> > > > > wrote "My heart will go on", he even produced a song for
> > > > > the cartoon "Anastasia". It was just such an amazing time,
> > > > > and that's right as Ravenous is being announced. We know
> > > > > he's working on "Garbo" and "Wuthering Heights".
> > > > >
> > > > > Then "Dance of the Vampires" happens and ughhh. I feel
> > > > > like that's the moment where it all went wrong, but hey he
> > > > > managed thirty really wonderful years before that.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Gosh I remember seeing it at the time and having these
> > > > > > delusions of grandeur about Jim releasing so many projects
> > > > > > on his very own label. It seems he did release a few
> > > > > > though, as you pointed out.


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