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re: do you like The Wizard Of Oz & stories by L. Frank Baum

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Max 06:01 pm UTC 07/22/07
In reply to: re: do you like The Wizard Of Oz & stories by L. Frank Baum - rockfenris2005 05:49 pm UTC 07/22/07

Jim:
"The first thing I thought when I heard this (Meat Loaf's) voice," Steinman says, "was get this Negro music away from him. He should be singing Wagnerian rock opera."

Thanks for the great Baum quote:
"The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent"
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>
> > What am I looking at. Hes not rasist. And the N word was
> > was acceptable in those days.
> >
>
> I didn't show you that link to prove L. Frank Baum was
> racist. The matter was much more complicated than that.
> The way our society looks at it today, he must be racist.
> Back then, he was desperately trying to write filler in a
> news journal. He didn't believe anything he was saying.
> Plus it was all embedded in the culture etc etc etc. It's
> just like drugs and smoking nowadays... it's totally seen
> differently.
>
> I also don't know whether Jim is racist, I think the
> examples you have made are just a character in a musical
> or a song speaking. I don't think that's Jim. Anyway, he
> has worked with a lot of people who are African-American
> (I hate using any of these terms) going back to Andre
> DeShields in "Rhinegold" and "Bloodshot Wine"
>
> The musical community Jim was working in at the time
> wouldn't have been toleratant toward racism or any other
> exclusions. I mean, come on, Off-Broadway, "Hair", "A
> Chorus Line", "More Than You Deserve" for heaven's sake
>
>


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