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Leesa (gallytrotter@mchsi.com) 03:11 am UTC 07/23/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Disgracefully Yours - pidunk 09:23 pm UTC 07/22/07 |
First of, who might have motivated a movement to get RH to IC in the late '70's--maybe, umm, the STUDENTS who are the impetus for virtually anything in Iowa City. Like I said, I bought a ticket because I wanted to see the film of the soundtrack I liked. And yeah, I really liked the lp, and I memorised the lyrics--I did on all the Queen lps and Bat as well. And I didn't know anything about the audience participation--they were participating so loudly I couldn't hear the movie, so at least I knew the song lyrics from the lp--those were all I knew. The next showings I brought toast because I watched what happened before. I liked the music I liked--in an obsessive way. Bat and RH were 2 I loved. Even without the visuals, I disagree--at least for me they were marvellous and yes, I did memorise them. But no, the movie dialogue was somewhat lost on me.Sorry I didn't make that clear. No, of course the vandalising of the Englert was shameful--I didn't dump the water, I didn't condone it--it occurred the first or second time I attended--all I did was toss 2 pieces of toast at participants at either the second or third showing I attended at the Englert. I WAS kinda shocked when the water was dumped by more seasoned movie-goers. And the Des Moines Register article didn't appear until that next weekend. As for the reat of your post, sorry, I don't understand. Leesa > > > > No babe, I bought a friggin ticket! > > I'd purchased the picture disc (with Tim Curry tarting it > > up in the fishnets--you would LOVE it!) about the same > > time I bought the new Bat 1 and caught the movie the first > > time it hit town. > > Thaya bought tickets until she fenagled the theater owner > to let our boys do the security for the place and thus let > our group in first and free. This ultimately resulted in > one fateful moment the whole thing nearly shut down and I > stopped the owner from shutting it down (I didn't realize > there was a larger agenda contra to my interests involving > the movie at the time) by redirecting the attentions of > the security to people milling around in front of the > theater and heckling. This action began the orderly lines > at the side of the theater and a no-standing zone in front > of the theater. > > > > > > >Iowa City may well have been the first > > place in Iowa to have shown it, however as the University > > has a very progressive student body, no doubt someone had > > lobbied, IC is alot different than much of the state. > > Who, do you imagine, might have motivated such a movement > if such existed? > > > > It simply wasn't me! I did have all the lyrics memorised > > so when the audience (who had the audience script down but > > not alot of dressing up)drowned out the movie, I still > > knew the words! > > An interest in Bat Out Of Hell does not readily translate > into an interest in Rocky Horror at that time and place, > but an interest in Rocky Horror readily translated to an > interest in Meat Loaf. With all due respect to the high > quality and catchiness of the songs, they weren't built > for stand-alone greatness, but for supporting the visuals, > and without the visuals, one hardly had an impetus for > learning all the words....and the words you knew were the > songs, not the spoken words in between them, except you > fail to differentiate that here. > > > > > I went a couple more times that week and brought > > toast--the Englert had a balcony--it was actually an old > > opera house--and someone smuggled a 5 gallon bucket in, > > filled it with water, and dumped it from the balcony > > during the rain scene! That little stunt made the Des > > Moines Register--if I can find the archive on the > > Register's site, I can show you that date, so at least you > > can see that your history of the film's distribution was > > not consistant with the entire country. > > > So, you thought that vandalizing a movie theater was a > good idea? It was not consistent with the entire country > because you, Thaya, had such an interest in that region of > the country and had control over where it was shown. > > > > At the time I was involved in alot of other things, mainly > > the pagan community in IC, as well as working, prepping > > for college, showing my second bully, Maggie, and planning > > to go to Britain. > > Thaya has also had involvements in the pagan community, > and told me she is a witch, a high priestess. She never > wanted to describe her coven. So what. > > > > The shows, as I recalled, were sold out that week. > > After the water though, they never showed it at the > > Englert again. > > Of course you understand that your influence has its > boundaries or at least did at that time in that case. Or > did you just want to shut it down after the token RH run? > > > > > In the early 80's I did attend one more showing I'd > > forgotten about at another IC theatre when a RH resergence > > on sorts happened--I bet that's what you meant about the > > fan club's distributing after '81--IC must have gotten an > > early one. > > In 1981 numerous prints were made after the rights were > formally given by 20th Century Fox to the Fan Club. Until > then there were about only five prints in existence. > > These rights, by the way, included the pulled copyrights > from Jim's side as part of a failure settlement, and Jim > obtained no monies from those new reproductions, but the > Fan Club and 20th Century Fox were able to share the > profits. > > The Fan Club says they make no money, but they also sell > books written with fake details they are calling facts > about the start of the RH cult and craze, leaving out > details that are significant, adding details of things > which never happened, and raising Smith's status to them > as being the man who was Richard O'Brien who wrote it and > played Riff Raff. That they made these falsities is > something that they scurilously, maliciously, and > aggressively protect, using among other things, character > assassinations and other creative deceptions. > > > > But, wasn't me who brought it either time. I thought about > > looking into the fan club but was too busy with other > > things. > > No need, as Thaya's name is nowhere seen in any of their > history. > > > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rocky Horror was playing in Iowa City in 1979, perhaps 1978. I saw it before I left for England in the spring of 1980 and I believe I was still in high school--I graduated in 1978. A group of us trashed the theatre one night and and article was written about the showing and incident in the Des Moines Register--I have the article ina scrapbook. > > > > Hell, you don't even have details and facts right about > > > > the distribution of the damn movie! > > > > How very consistant with all your bullshit. > > > > > > If it was playing there, you were the one who took it > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Susan, you pathetic stupid bitch--I AM NOT THAYA! Your > > > > > > post is total nonsense. What the hell is a ganook? An egg > > > > > > in the womb? You are nuts. > > > > > > And of course Mutt Lange is a trend-setter--and yes, with > > > > > > Shania Twain's fusion of country to pop, damned right. > > > > > > > > > > Oh Puleeze. Or maybe Aaaaan Puleeze. Whatever. Twain's > > > > > fusion is lucky its not her hips to the opry > > > > > traditionalists. Pretty face, but not my idea of country. > > > > > Pop and country don't mix because one is pop and one is > > > > > country. Now, I know where some great pop performers have > > > > > made some interesting forays pleasantly into a country > > > > > atmosphere, but to put pop together with country and call > > > > > it a fusion is ridiculous. The whole guitar twangy thing > > > > > in Nowhere Fast is a nice effect, and maybe it could cross > > > > > over to country, for example in the The Dream Engine > > > > > collection, but I would not call it a country fusion. The > > > > > whole idea of fusion this and fusion that is solely to > > > > > confuse. The kind of fusion that a so-called fusion is, is > > > > > confusion. Period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're as ignorant about that aspect of music as you are > > > > > > on the rest of it. > > > > > > > > > > Nope. Even if I don't know something now, it is easy to > > > > > learn. Lange was not on the primary focus in thought. But > > > > > a look at his accomplishments do not render him in my view > > > > > a trendsetter. He is a background guy, in every capacity. > > > > > You could only know if he is a trendsetter if you know him > > > > > and know what he is doing. Otherwise, he has been involved > > > > > in nothing particularly stellar in my opinion, even if he > > > > > did involve himself with Def Leppard at the time when Jim > > > > > was to be working with them. Hmmmm.....that didn't have > > > > > anything to do with that situation, did it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So now that Leesa M in Arizona shot your accusations of > > > > > > her being multiple personalities down, > > > > > > > > > > Denials do not tantamount to "shooting down" of truth. > > > > > Deny and deny all you want. Those assertions are > > > > > preposterous. I wrote about the myspace page and explained > > > > > its content before that post ever made the board. I have > > > > > nothing else to say on that. It is a stupid volley of > > > > > stupid arguments by someone who did not create a logical > > > > > construction of their deception. Is there such a thing as > > > > > a logical construction of deception? Thankfully not, no > > > > > matter how logical the deceivers want to be. It takes only > > > > > good logic to see through deceptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >you're back to > > > > > > calling me Thaya--so I'm a baroness and Sandra Cabot as > > > > > > well I suppose and you called me in December of 1980 and > > > > > > all that bullshit--and you believe this?? So what is > > > > > > 'Thaya' doing in Iowa? Posing as a resident for 23 yrs in > > > > > > the same place? > > > > > > > > > > I first wondered what Thaya was doing in Idaho, where > > > > > Thaya admits to being, for about as long now. > > > > > > > > > > >What does your private eye say about > > > > > > that? > > > > > > > > > > Who are you referring to? > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, Hal, and Smith--don't have a clue. I've seen RH at > > > > > > the Englert Theatre in Iowa City 3 times in my life in the > > > > > > mid '70's--whatever. > > > > > > > > > > It fucking wasn't in Iowa in the mid-seventies. It didn't > > > > > open in the Waverly until 1976, and prints for > > > > > distribution weren't put around by the wankering awful fan > > > > > club until after 1981. > > > > > > > > > > You saw it three times you say, and you have all this > > > > > stock put into what someone says about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of your 'research' on virtually everything is bullshit > > > > > > and you simply can't face the fact that you wasted all > > > > > > that time. > > > > > > > > > > I wasted alot of time believing people who could not be > > > > > believed but looked believable. And by the way none of my > > > > > time with Jim was wasted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >There is not one concrete shred of evidence to > > > > > > support anything. Just your mental illness. > > > > > > > > > > You are too much. I know many people who are quite willing > > > > > to swear on the bible that the grass in a park is not > > > > > green if they were given enough incentive to. So give it > > > > > up. I've got lots of evidence visible to you and everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You wanna call me 'Thaya'? Whatever. I guess if Jim puts > > > > > > up with you calling him several different names on his own > > > > > > fansite, I'll tolerate your insanity and inability to > > > > > > understand who I am as well.... > > > > > > > > > > It's called admission. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course no one ever wins an argument with you--you make > > > > > > no fucking sense to argue with! > > > > > > > > > > Nah, that's not what you used to say. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | |
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