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pidunk 11:21 pm UTC 08/13/07 |
| In reply to: | PLEASE READ EVERYONE!!! - Jacqueline 09:36 pm UTC 08/13/07 |
> Susan, this board has been doing well the last week. Yes it has been and I have been delighted. It has been nice to be able to relax and make a few pun/funnies here and there. I like it that there is an atmosphere of harmony here and do try to promote harmony here as well. > > Yes, I know Smeg had his swipes at you and I see you're > smacking back. Indeed, as it had been anticipated I might, and I should, however but I do not need to continue. However this statement I make generally: I find it unique that his repeated insults which are fully redundant and vulgar (which you stated you would not tolerate, calling me a ****) are continuing without any form of remorse, reduction, on his part. Like it is his inalienable right to make some portion of life miserable for someone else. I don't think anyone has any right to make any part of another persons' life miserable for them. I understand the controversy of my posts, and it is not really something that is absent controversy, and as you said, however, it is a really good thing to think of the present. I can't really expect to be liked, such as in a popularity contest, if I am attempting to change someone's lax of thinking to one of active thinking, and to those who like an intellectual challenge this might be stimulating and those who don't could just shrug their shoulders and take a wait and see attitude. I'd love to be liked, but I really want to get a message across. I don't want to offend someone, but the things that are being clung to with hostility are not having anything to do with the music. The music is always the music. I want Jim Cypherd to have his legacy, to tell his children, or his nieces and nephews that he did this, without them saying no he is not telling the truth. Because Jim Cypherd deserves so much more than he has gotten, and I don't think of myself when I try to get something for him. So maybe while I don't think of myself I have been some small remiss in thinking of others. I shall attempt, as I have begun to do, to strike a balance. Whatever I say is something I don't feel deserves insult because I say nothing that takes away from the reasons people are here at all. I am so glad that people have this interest and are here sharing information. I would like some of that information to be given the input of the things that Jim Cypherd has told me and I do keep the topic relevant to what is brought up. When someone talks of the past, it is not inappropriate, is it, for me to talk of the past as well? When someone talks of the present, I happily also talk of the present, such as when the Meat/Jim rumor began and then ended in May. I hope to be a greater asset than a detriment, and a peacemaker rather than a hell-raiser. I think that my integrity is not only intact but deserving of preservation when assaults of rhetoric come in from someone who has, apparently nothing else to think of but to denigrate it. Of Smeghead, It is not a post he is complaining about, it is my presence, and that is without regard to anything I post, and he does so with rather scurilous vicious intent along the lines of lotus_nz, but much more harsh because he goes the distance and writes whole sentences describing his wish for my demise over and over again. He has done nothing else since April, did nothing else since he returned, and I would like very much if he would cease and desist this behavior. > > It stops now. I don't want to have to police this board. > > If a bunch of crap and nastiness starts getting posted > back and forth, clogging the board and making it scroll - > I'm going to suspend everyone involved. > I have defended myself from those who have attacked me and it did take up space but in the end a resolution was achieved, and whether some people admit it or not I have fought to keep a reputation that I in my own integrity earn and do nothing to reduce, and I did not like it in the slightest bit that it took up my energy, my time, raised my blood pressure, raised my pulse (yes, I do have some health issues which I consider in the cost of these conflicts not of my own making) and took up space on the board, as well as the time of others, and polluted the site to the extent that without the slightest of effort did create my own dream pollution. It is wrong for others to attack me when it is not a thing that should have any particular affect on where their musical proclivities take them (except to expand their horizons rather than shrink them), and it is wrong for me to let it go without giving them a what's for about why they ought not. I am glad that those things are in the past, and I think the only reason why the call and demand for Smeg to return came about was because the army ran out of fighters to fight me. I'm like a flying squadron of one against the migs of the of the second world war, in analogy. I've never been trained as a Ninja....Ninja Poster!, but I do feel that a righteous standing up for myself using the tactics at hand are appropriate because every little slight vulnerability they find in me, they attack. I am really not happy about such a circumstance, but the only thing I can say is that it is not my fight, if people would not attack me. I don't attack anyone. > Ignore each other, take it to private mail or start your > own boards where dog-fighting and militant rule can > prevail. I really am not a combatant person by nature and I like to live in harmony. I also like to live with integrity and be seen as having integrity. I've seen efforts here to create character assassination of me, and this has not been easy to cope with....but without coping with it, I would not have the ability to be here at all. I went, due to the impersonations, from being "crazy Susan" to being Susan who may or may not be a liar. If people need time to see or decide on one or another, then that is part of a natural evolution of things in society, and I want to be as harmonious as possible during this time. I do not need to start my own board for fighting someone....when I had my own board it was a scholastically based board filled with analysis of the artistic works, and did not have any intention of focusing on concerts, performances (other than Jim's), or critiques. I wrote about such thing as what is a liet motif, and where they began in Jim's works, and such scholastic and educational topics. This is the board that was destroyed, and I was too unmotivated to begin it again. I didn't see the point. I still don't see that people here are interested in the scholastic or artistic aspects of Jims' works because they do not discuss it. When I ever do try to bring something like that up, it clearly is rejected. I think of Jim as an artist worthy of study, and I love studying his works. Any board I would remake would also emphasize this, which would not have any toleration level for fighting, and those who want to fight would be omitted from the roster, because in scholastic pursuit there is debate, but not derision. I really like healthy debates. But I don't need to see anyone insulting anyone else, and this includes myself to someone else. But the truth is it serves as a punctuation when an exclamation mark just won't do. > > I don't want it here and I'm sick of asking you people to > act like civilized humans. I am very surprised that people who hear Jim's lyrics would ever have less of an intellectual level to stoop to such things. I am surprised, because Jim's lyrics are deep, philosophical, leading one to examine, to wonder, to think. How does one hear such things and not think? How could they love love love, and not know, know, know? Or even try? I don't really understand that at all, but the reality of their interests here and whatever level of intellect that does not match the content is obviously attributable to the themes and to the music, but I feel that there is just so much more than the themes and the music. There is so much depth, that I really would love people to appreciate that too. When I was a child I loved to think, and thinking was one of my favorite things to do. When people think, they may find that they like to think also. But they don't think of Jim's works as having something underneath the surface. If they did, they would think of the content, the meaning, the message, and the kinds of references to philosophical issues that the songs are making, and nobody would be a liar to that, to an intellectual debate, philosophical debate. So, I may be a fish out of water for this instance, but I am a peaceful fish, and happy to be around. > > You know Susan, I think if you could focus less on the > "past" - (real or imagined, I'd don't give a rat's ass at > this point) - you could become a well liked member here. I believe that I addressed this point above. Many members are referring to things that happened in or was written in the past, and they interpret it in a vacuum. They ask questions like what happened in his love life that created such and so lyric, or what kind of misfortune created this or that morbid scene, and what I have a moth to flame propensity towards doing is to provide some insight. Where do they think the answer is going to come from? Did Jim give any indications in his blog that he is prepared to discuss those things on his own, just to let it hang out in the wind? It happens, with respect to Jim Cypherd, that he has prepared to let me hang out those sheets for him. If the explanations I give, fit the songs, what is the problem? Therefore, the thing that is quizical to me, is, if something logically explains something, how can it not make sense to someone? Respectfully, I do say, however, as much as people on the board focus on the past, I am naturally focusing on the past, and as much as they focus on the present, I am happy to do so. > > One more thing - do NOT post links to or image pages of > other member's sites or emails. If you - or anyone else - > does it again, I will put you off the board. I hate doing stuff like that. I especially hated it with this example. I don't want to ever do something like that again. I don't even link to my own site because I know that going there is a choice people would make in their own time....I gave the myspace and the Propaganews links to exhibit the greater balance of my personality and interests. But to my own defense if you would please, Ryan's emails were the only way for me to show he was lying, and without that he would not have stopped his campaign against me. There are other examples. I would like it if the person who is hurting my integrity would first refrain from doing so, or be done to what they request that you do to me: and that they be banned. I would not stoop to saying on a personal basis that someone should be banned, but clearly if someone is asking for something, with so much persistence and disagreeability, maybe they would be happiest if they receive it on their own side and be rid of the problem? I am reminded of the seventh plague on Egypt at the Exodus, when the Pharoah's curse was reversed to apply to the members of his own houses, instead of the houses of the Hebrews. I wish peace, harmony, good wishes and respect to you. > > Thanks everyone. And thanks to you as well, Jacqueline > > xxx > Jacqueline...hating that it has to be this way And I understand how you must be feeling. Now, smile. :) | |
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