| re: Steve Steinman | |
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Shallah 02:43 pm UTC 04/01/09 |
| In reply to: | re: Steve Steinman - Smeghead 06:16 pm UTC 03/28/09 |
| It is so obvious that this Stuart Person is either Dean Torkington, although he does not make enough spelling and grammar mistakes, or his brother.. Anyway, Smeg, you are almost correct about what makes a theatrical production. A story and dialogue are not always enough.. There have to be costume changes, different characters singing the songs etc.. ANYTHING FOR LOVE (Aka, THE DEAD RINGER FROM HELL), which I saw in Dartford last week gets past the theatrical bit because they can and have pointed to parts in the show where Meat goes into another character, has said that he creates stories in his head and presents them onstage, and with that Anything For Love recreates a Meatloaf show, but does take liberties.. Where I have a problem, however, is how Steve Steinman can do VAMPIRES ROCK? He certainly could not have got permission to perform all the songs he does, much less afford the licence for all of them from the various publishing houses. > Pyrotechnics do not make it more than a concert. If there > is a story and dialogue then it could qualify as > theatrical production and require different licensing than > a concert. In any case... if Steve has acquired the > proper rights then there is nothing for Meat and Jim to > complain about. If he has not then Jim should sue him and > shut him down. > > > I think it is very obvious that Steve Steinman is > > exploiting both Jim and Meat Loaf. Mr. Loaf is worried > > about Steve's Bat Out Of Hell The Symphony because it will > > be using the songs that feature in his concerts. Mr. Loaf > > can't complain about Bat Out Of Hell The Musical because > > of a legal agreement with Jim. But in the case of Steve > > Steinman, I feel he is justified. Jim and Mr. Loaf went > > through so much to make those songs famous. It seems > > unfair that Steve Steinman can just pick them up and > > exploit them. > > > > I think Jim should be worried too. Apparently he won't > > make any money from the Steve Steinman show because it is > > being performed as a concert (the situation with Bat The > > Musical is very different). But what about the > > pyrothechnics and othere effects mentioned in the article > > posted by Bellminer. Surely it is more than a concert. > > > > Steve says that "Meat is wacky" because he is paying > > tribute to the songs and not the artist but he seems to > > forget that Jim is the real artist behind Bat. He must > > surely realise that he is exploiting Jim. > > > > His last name was not Steinman. He changed it so that > > people would think he was Jim. It is a name change that > > has made him a lot of money. He now has a forty piece > > orchestra and it was mainly Jim's songs that allowed him > > to build up to his present lofty level (although he did > > use other songs in his carear - it is mainly the Steinman > > brand that has elevated him to where he is today). | |
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