| re: Jim as a script writer | |
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steven_stuart 12:38 am UTC 10/10/10 |
| In reply to: | re: Jim as a script writer - The_wolf_with_the_red_roses 10:03 pm UTC 10/08/10 |
| > I'll answer your last question first as its the most Jim > related and say that to make a film with Jim's songs in > them would be a dream come true. It would be such an > awesome way to get his music across to a wider audience. > I've had a few idea's on how a bat out of hell movie might > work out (the first mostly ). If I was put on this earth > to make anything I'm pretty sure a musical with Jim's > music is it. That's cool. You'll make it if you keep working hard. Stuart's "BOOH" story is about a rebel who is chased out of a small town (riding a Harley of course) and then he comes back years later when he is a famous pop star with his band (all of them riding Harleys of course). He meets up with the girl he was in love when he was chased out of town and some of the locals are not happy about this. At some point he has a bad accident and his heart flys out of his body. The only part of his screenplay that I didn't like was the mother of the girl changing her mind just before trying to commit suicide and then singing "Heaven Can Wait". I thought that he wrote that scene to make the song fit into the script somewhere. As Smeghead correctly pointed out, its difficult to make "Paradise" fit into the "Neverland" story and Stuart seemed to face the same problem with his story, so he has the girl's mother and father singing it because their daughter's love story reminds them of when they were young. Its also kind of a warning to the young couple that they may end up bitter and frustrated as time goes on. They will end up waiting till the end of time for the whole thing to end. Stuart's screenplay is set in the fifties. He thinks the "BOOH" songs would be perfect for a James Dean or early Marlon Brando film. He actually wrote a second "BOOH" screenplay dealing with a computer game designer who manipulates avatars but most people seem to think that the fifties one is better. Apparently he is a huge fan of Jim. Since he was a boy in Australia. Of course I have to remain loyal to Jim's "Neverland" story for "BOOH" (and was glad that Markus recently agreed that its cool), even though it presents certain artistic problems. I just think the idea of a futuristic Peter Pan fighting a fascist dictator in post-apocalyptic New York could be amazing. Making Hook a dictator is to me more exciting than Hook being a pirate. The only thing I don't like is Hook and Mrs. Hook singing "Paradise". I'm not sure why. Maybe its because I grew up with the famous film image of Meat Loaf and Karla De Vito singing that song. When they were young. However, I love 95% of Jim's script and I can testify that he is a really great writer. Of course he is best at music and lyrics but there is some great dialogue and scene descriptions in that script. Especially the description of Obsidan (New York). I think both Jim and Stuart's scripts are available online somewhere. I've read people like Smeghead writing about them. Somewhere there is an old version of Jim's script where Peter is a surfer and Obsidian is in California. That version gets discussed quite often. It would be great if they could produce both Stuart and Jim's versions. There would be something cool if the advertisers could link "Bat Out Of Hell" to "Pirates Of The Caribbean". Voice-over: "From the writers of..." I really hope you keep going. I know it takes guts to write things and put them out there. Stuart left Australia for Los Angeles when he was really young. With nothing. And now he is in demand. > Bat out hell to me plays like a series of short films but > are all set in the same world, much like Sin City or Pulp > Fiction. That's a brilliant way to put it. I really have to copy your quote and send it to Elva. I hope you don't mind. It should be a graphic novel like "Sin City". I have heard people saying that the songs are short stories and that there shouldn't be a story connecting them but as far as I know there has been no suggestion of them being short stories "set in the same world". > Its a shame that "Bikers" has yet to materialise, sounded > like a cool concept and very "Jim" like. Yes and Disney wanted to do it. It could have been huge. Apparently the problem was the song rights (as Jim stated when he posted as "Wagner"). What a shame. I don't understand the legal problem about the song rights. Do you? > I had heard that someone was making a musical with Jim's > songs exclusively, but didn't know it was the screen > writer of the "Pirate..." films. Perhaps the musical > might re-ignite interest in it. Yes. Hopefully. It was called off the first time round because of The Blue Man Group suddenly becoming interested in "BOOH". This time round, Stuart's stock is much higher. He has just made his directorial debut in Australia and he absolutely loves Jim and Jim's songs. > I would love one day to be the head writer of Doctor Who, > doubt it will happen though as I think my style doesn't > really suit it and besides, its in pretty good hands now, > not that it wasn't before, just thought the previous > writer tried to hard to cram a message down the viewers > throat. I have a feeling that you will write films. Maybe you might have to move to Los Angeles like Stuart. With all the talent here, the British film industry should be much healthier than it is. Although there are quite a few big American names coming here to work. But I think its easier to break through in America. Would you be willing to move to LA? > If I'm not mistaken Jim directed the video for Bonnie's > "If you were a woman and I was a man". He didnt do a bad > job with it, shame he never directed a video for a better > song. Oh right. Did you see the Pandora's Box video that Ken Russell directed for "IACBTMN"? If only Jim had directed that himself. It was a wonderful song that was ruined by Russell insisting on an orgy taking place in the video. I've seen a second version of the Russell video that was edited by the record company but that wasn't much better. Are you interested in working on music videos? Do you think that the video of "TEOTH" has a story that is in any way relevant to the song lyrics? | |
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