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Wilbury 04:55 am UTC 05/19/11 |
| In reply to: | A Very Interesting History Of Art Thread - steven_stuart 02:46 am UTC 05/19/11 |
| To set you straight on one big snafu of mine, me accusing the program cover of Ryan's as being a photo manipulation was a lazy assumption on my part, Ryan's right it actually appears to (amazingly) be a different original by Whelan. The only photo manipualted version is the ADVERT that Ryan posted, which is obvously the VBO cover overlaid with the Bat on the Chrysler building from Bat2.. I also hasten to add that the reason I added my craptacular sketches of the Bat2 cover was to try and explain why I appear so down on everything all the time. I don't pretend to be able to paint at ALL, much less as proficiently as the best guys there are (like Whelan). But rather it annoys me no end that they can't art direct their own work, and that nobody from the record label is art directing them either. It's sloppy. And it's a very expensive and time consuming thing (the painting) to get wrong once you've finished. It's not like a photo shoot where you can take a few safety shots, a few portrait, a few landscape etc etc. > This is a very interesting history of art thread. Maybe > Michael Whelan would enjoy reading the various posts > discussing his work. Someone should tell him. Does he > still do album covers? I seem to remember someone saying > that he no longer wants to do them. Maybe because Meat > used computers to change his work. I'm not sure. Ryan, > when you talk about it evolving, is it Whelan doing the > different versions or are Meat's people manipulating an > original painting? In another post you say that Wilbury is > not a fan of the art but didn't Wilbury say that he is a > fan of the original painting? Also, the following from > Wikipedia made me wonder: "The cover art was illustrated > by sci-fi/fantasy artist Michael Whelan, following the > style of Richard Corben's cover for Bat Out of Hell. It > features the biker from the first cover flying on his > motorcycle towards a giant bat perched on top of New York > City's Chrysler Building. Echoing the gravestones of the > first cover, partially destroyed skyscrapers inhabit the > lava landscape. Also like the first album, it features a > 'Songs by Jim Steinman' credit, although smaller and > located at the bottom of the cover." Does Richard Corben > deserve credit for the Michael Whelan painting? And Jim? > Jim has the "concept" credit for the Bat 1 cover. How much > influence did Jim have on the original painting that > Wilbury posted? The "partially destroyed skyscrapers" and > the Chrysler Building sticking out sound like something > from Jim's imagination. Its very Obsdian (or > post-apocalyptic New York). Its actually more relevant to > Jim's "Neverland" vision than the Bat 1 cover is. | |
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