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re: Bat 3. Ten years on.

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Jacqueline 06:53 pm UTC 04/09/16
In reply to: Bat 3. Ten years on. - rockfenris2005 12:51 pm UTC 04/09/16


Thanks for writing this Ryan. Makes me feel like listening to this album again. I don't think I ever gave it a fair shake because of personal feelings and hating BFG here. I think I had hoped that song would never be rerecorded and always just be Jim's.
> I was feeling depressed, so I lay down and listened to Bat
> 3, because I listened to Bat 2 the other night, and I was
> meaning to get around to this one. My thoughts, ten years
> after the release of the album.
>
> Overall, I can see this through line for the whole thing,
> which is this pretty tortured guy going through a lot of
> ups and downs here. Whether it's more than two women, or
> just the two, I can't make out. Anyway, the songs.
> 1. The Monster is loose - I actually love how aggressive
> and balls to the wall this one is. The yelling at the end
> and the choir just makes it for me too.
> 2. Blind as a bat - This should have been a single. I
> don't know about first, also with the whole Steinman thing
> as well, but definitely should have been second in my
> eyes.
> 3. It's all coming back to me now - In terms of the song
> itself, which leads into the whole argument about Steinman
> involvement, I just don't like it as much as the other two
> and I don't think that's ever going to change. And I'll
> just get that out of the way now. In terms of how it fits
> with the album, I can see this guy looking back on an
> older relationship, maybe the one in the song we just
> heard, or maybe another one. He's been through some
> dramas.
> 4. Bad for good - I think this is the beginning of a new
> relationship here, or it could be looking back on the
> older one. I'm not sure. This was probably the first time
> also that Brian May's involvement here really "hit" me. I
> just remember thinking "There's hardly anything here", but
> this time you could feel him, and how it made so much
> sense to get him involved with this one. It does have a
> bit of a Queen vibe on this one. Can't help but wonder btw
> what a studio version of the 80s live one would have been
> like. I wish Meat and Jim had done this somehow after Bat
> 2, and there probably could have been a Bat 3 between
> this, Future, Original sin, All coming back, Left in the
> dark. Ah well.
> 5. Cry over me - Diane Warren's song. People have talked
> about this song not belonging here. I don't really know
> what to say about that at this point. All I'm going to say
> though is. THIS SONG IS EVERYTHING. This and "If God could
> talk" actually sum up my feelings pretty well sometimes
> and I can't find that in many other songs, not even Jim's.
> This one is actually really underrated to me. I think the
> guy's broken up with the girl now.
> 6. In the land of the pig the butcher is king - Damn, this
> song is fierce. I think the guy's really depressed at this
> point. He's just got off the subway or something moving
> through the city, like Vin's story a bit that Jim was
> talking about on the blog. He's in a dark place here. Life
> is a lemon in the land of the pig. Where the butcher is
> king and you want your money back! Love the guitar
> solo/instrumental, also the dark ominous string parts. It
> almost makes you feel like there's this monstrous beast
> looming, like something out of "The Lord of the Rings",
> and you can smell it on the air.
> 7. Monstro - Should the lyrics have been Latin? I don't
> know.
> 8. Alive - Difficult to appreciate this one now, given
> what Meat said about it feeling "forced". And I don't
> know, it's a bit cliche and all, but it's not bad really.
> If I'd heard someone else singing it, I would have
> thought, "Meat could have done this." Probably not on this
> album though!
> 9. If God could talk - I just keep remembering what Todd
> said, "Shouldn't it be 'If God WOULD Talk'? Besides that,
> see "Cry Over Me". If God Could Talk, these big grand
> images he's trying to use to get his point across. I know
> how this guy feels.
> 10. If it ain't broke break it - I've heard different
> meanings for this song, but I always took it as the guy's
> really depressed. And I can tell you now, this really
> helps when you're in one of these moods, "Everything I've
> ever dreamed of/Has begun to fade to black/I don't know
> where I ever lost love/Or where to go now to get it back".
> Not that I take that literally, but something in it really
> makes you relate. Also, in terms of the songwriting, we're
> so used to Steinman being so melodic with his music. I
> actually really appreciate how this is more... monotone? I
> can't think of the right word. It goes with the vibe of
> the song as well. I wonder if there was a full Mike Vogel
> recording of "Only when I feel" for "Wuthering Heights"
> which could have been the demo that Meat heard? I don't
> know.
> 11. What about love? - Really felt the lyrics this time.
> He's in a relationship now. He's moved ahead.
> 12. Seize the night - Love the use of "The storm" here,
> though Meat would have got that from the "Dance of the
> Vampires" demo with the Overture at the start. I think
> this is the couple going through some kind of crisis.
> 13. The future ain't what it used to be - And this is
> where the crisis really crystallizes or becomes complete.
> I would have named the album after this song really. It
> probably would have fixed everything, haha. "Bat out of
> Hell 3: The future ain't what it used to be". The ending
> with Meat and Jennifer riffing with the backing vocals I
> love.
> 14. Cry to Heaven - It sums it all up, and probably all
> the Bat albums too.
>
> But yeah, maybe they should have called it "Bat out of
> Hell 3: The future ain't what it used to be"!!!
>
> The problem is it's very difficult to appreciate knowing
> what might have been, and I would still like an album
> called "The final flight" with roughly these songs:
> "Braver"
> "Not allowed to love"
> "Only when I feel"
> "What part of my body hurts the most?"
> "Who needs the young?"
> "You've got to love me with the sun in your eyes"
> "In the land of the pig the butcher is king"
> "We're still the children"
> "Cry to Heaven" or "Angels arise" which I can imagine
> Sarah Brightman singing.
>
> Anyhoo! Just my 200 cents.


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