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wordnix 01:16 am UTC 09/11/08 |
| In reply to: | re: The 'Ray' Factor - Wagner 01:10 am UTC 09/11/08 |
| You do know what ammunition you've just given the latter, even if the second sentence is considered? > Everything written by Steve Stuart and Smeg is true. Thats > SOME of the facts. > WAGNER > > > > But it is not just his voice. It is his attitude to Jim. > > He has lied about his contribution to the song writing > > process, he has taken Jim to court, he did the Bat 3 album > > without Jim's blessing and then tried to make it sound > > like a Steinman project by getting everyone in the "making > > of" documentary to go on about Jim (even though they had > > brought another writer in). > > > > And how did Jim react? With great kindness from what I > > hear. His feelings were hurt about Bat 3 but he gave Meat > > Loaf permission to do the phone ad and he won't speak out > > against Meat in public. > > > > I don't think Ray is much of a factor. > > > > > > > Ray has never said word one to me about Loaf. I was not > > > as critical of Meat before my contact with Ray because > > > prior to 2004 Meat's voice was not as awful... though it > > > was going downhill... and he hadn't sued Jim Steinman to > > > steal his trademark and claimed he wrote most of the > > > lyrics and music to Bat 2. Sounds like you are just > > > trying to start some shit.My criticism of Loaf comes from > > > his declining vocal quality and his increasing > > > assholishness... i.e. suing Jim and lying in a legal > > > document he filed. > > > > > | |
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