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re: Mastubation debate

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pidunk 04:13 pm UTC 05/21/07
In reply to: re: Mastubation debate - Jsteinfan 04:47 pm UTC 05/20/07



> I'm not ususally one to question why someone would bring
> up masturbation on RR - as i'm usually the wanker on the
> list - but to this thread i say WTF???
>
> Women & Men both masturbate - most people probably
> continue to do so while in a serious relationship.
> Personally i think release is always a good thing. Daily
> release is best!
>
> Like a wise man once said:
>
> "You don't have a lot, but it's all that you've got
> And you can turn it into more than it seems
> Just give it a shot, fantasize every movement
> And imagine every inch of your dream
>
> No one said it had to be real
> But it's gotta be something you've been wanting to feel
> now"


Ah! I was looking for a decent segue into this topic. There are two components: 1)Porn, and 2)Masterbation. It seems that the emphasis fell to the latter, when I would have actually expected it to have been the former, as I was watching people posting. These are separate in my thinking, 100%, and one could look at porn without masterbating, or masterbate without looking at porn, and masterbate while looking at porn, and the most controversial is the third of these options.

I was exposed to porn while on a babysitting job, when the couple who were out had some in a nighttable I curiously looked into. I was exposed to porn when some fourteen year old friends found a dirty book and started reading parts of it and passing it around laughing. I was exposed to porn when one adolescent boyfriend wanted to bring it into the relationship. I suppose he masterbated while looking at it but he had issues. I don't think I've seen a need for porn in a relationship that was healthy. Dr. Ruth Westheimer would most undoubtedly disagree, but I don't actually consider her to be very healthy.

I felt that my exposure to porn ruined me, ruined my ability to be warm, close, compassionate, open, and confident in the dynamics between a man and a woman, where the woman had to be myself. My definition of these things involve the focus on the man in the presence, the man that I am with, without thinking of the images I ever saw before; My definition of these things involves being able to look at people in a casually social way without remembering the images I've seen of strangers naked for all the world including myself to see. I hated the porn I remembered, and sometimes had trouble forgetting the porn I hated.

I was exposed to the concept of masterbation before I even knew what sex was. Some girl who was more developed for her age was talking in a group of girls about her sexual relationship with her boyfriend, and she brought it up. She said she thought she masterbated when she was not sure about her feelings for her boyfriend. And when I finally grew into a woman, I learned that masterbation has nothing to do with insufficiency....it has to do with plenty.

If porn was healthy, it would not be packaged in the ways that it gets packaged. Our bodies are the outer shells of our souls, and our nakedness is something that is either seen as a natural state such as by nudists, or as something to be kept private betweeen trusting adults. That is, trusting adults who do not need to see the naked sexual parts of complete strangers, who have no resemblances to the ones they love.

A big old IMHO on that.




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