| re: Bully dog question | |
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Leesa 04:26 am UTC 07/23/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Bully dog question - pidunk 03:49 am UTC 07/23/07 |
| Oh my god... geesh, is that screaming puppy a victim of fading puppy syndrome and what do we do to save it as most vets don't know? Is the bitch attacking the pups and we don't know why? Is a pup so uncoordinated that it can't attach to a nipple and can't feed? Just maybe someone else KNOWS what the fuck is happening. There are no generalised answers and how-tos here. These people have to actually get involved. And no, we can't just give out 'puppy rearing tips' and call it responsible. And you know what? A hell of alot of breeders and mentors DO walk the puppy rearing people (and sometimes their vets as well) through landmines--you just have no idea whatsoever. Leesa > > > > I am curious--why would you refuse to put people like this > > in contact with me? Do you think I mean the breed harm? Do > > you think my take on what they should do is wrong? You're > > looking at the standard party line of one of the BEST > > national clubs in the sport of purebred dogs. We have the > > pristine reputation we have BECAUSE of our approach, > > elitist that it sometimes seems. The breed and the dogs > > are the priority, always. > > I have the privilege of associating with the BEST Bull > > Terrier people in the WORLD, some of whom are my mentors > > and co-breeders. And you'd 'sure as damn hell' not put > > them in contact with me??--well, thanks for adding to our > > breeds' problems--I WILL remember that. You read about the > > horrors of puppy mills and you know what horse you backed, > > sister. Go to one of their auctions sometime. You're > > shamefully clueless and you profoundly hurt a 'charming' > > breed. > > Leesa > > > > > > > What do you tell your momma bullies, "now dear, everything > is alright, we have the best organization for caring for > your breed. Now look at this phone number. Feed that baby > of yours, look at the phone number, and everything is > alright because we are so good, we don't help spread puppy > mill behavior around. Oh, you have a problem? Well let's > see where that hotspot administrator is.....let's see, > right here, you see this website? Go and put your paw on > that keyboard now, that's it.....now isn't everything > better?" > > Do you or don't you have the ability to give advice that > people exercising their rights to breed their own dogs can > take, even if they just didn't go and sterilize their dogs > in the first place? > > > > > > > > > > > I do appreciate your letting me know about this. Hmmm. > > > > They have both the dam and stud dog--I guess my first > > > > advice would be to contact the breeders where they > > > > acquired their dogs from and let them know they had (I > > > > presume) their first litter. > > > > > > I don't know where the dogs originated from, and it is not > > > an atmosphere where they welcome inquiries, even if it > > > were my business, which it is not, where they got the > > > dogs, and it is also none of my business to call their > > > breeder instead of them calling their breeder. If they > > > have communication with their breeder, they are not > > > reflecting such insights by their communications with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > >There are many reasons why > > > > puppies in the early days die. A seasoned bully breeder > > > > can be an irreplacable mentor, especially when dealing > > > > with the complications a litter can bring. I had 3 litters > > > > from 1986 to my last in 1993 (the one Elvis was out of) > > > > and we had every problem and malady, genetic and > > > > otherwise, in the book. Without my mentors I never would > > > > have made it! So my first call would be to THEIR breeder > > > > for immediate advice, both general as well as > > > > bloodline-specific. > > > > > > They seem uninterested in the bloodline or genetic issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > My next IMMEDIATE stop would be to a competent > > > > bully-knowledgable vet and get everyone evaluated, > > > > including the bitch. It's probably too late to remove > > > > dewclaws, but I'd definately get an evaluation and be sure > > > > that mom has expelled all afterbirth and whatnot including > > > > her milk output and general after-whelp condition, > > > > focusing on pseuso-eclampsia, a calcium drop somewhat > > > > unique to Bull Terriers. > > > > > > They are not taking the dogs to any vets at all. > > > > > > > > > > If for some reason they can't access their breeder I'd go > > > > to the Bull Terrier Club of America's website (BTCA--do a > > > > search) and find the closest regional club. We have alot > > > > in California and we can arrange a home visit if need > > > > merits from a member of the closest club. They are an > > > > invaluable resource with a list of BTCA approved vets. > > > > Have them tell the regional club contact that I sent > > > > them--I'm the Iowa rescue 'hotspotter' if they don't know > > > > me straightaway and am on the BTCA membership list for > > > > 2007. > > > > > > They don't even have time, they say, to go to Petco. > > > > > > > > > > My e-mail should be on the Club's website, if it's not > > > > been updated from the old aol, it's > > > > gallytrotter@mchsi.com. Have them e-mail me with their > > > > phone and I'm more than willing to call them and make a > > > > personal referral and be of any assistance possible. > > > > Again, thank you Susan for setting things aside and > > > > letting us help these folks and their bullies. > > > > We'll do the best to help these folks and their babies. > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > I sure as damn hell won't put them in contact with you. > > > > > > > > > What basic care do puppies of any breed need? I know only > > > of kittens, and do not know anything about puppies. > > > > > > > > > | |
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