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pidunk 02:57 pm UTC 04/17/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Been Having So Much Fun, Thanks! - Dr_Rock 07:04 am UTC 04/17/07 |
> Jim did take lead vocal duties on "Left in the Dark." He > also was lead vocal on "Bad For Good" and "Dance in My > Pants" from that album. I think all the rest were sung by > Rory but without listening again I can't be sure. Rory > definitely sung "Lost Boys," "Rock 'n' Roll Dreams," and > "Surf's Up." > > Peace, > Will One of the reasons why this board is so spirited and free expressing, is the members' abilities to authoritatively claim that the artist did not do his own artistic works. It is so easily that you forbid Jim his credit for the wide range of his vocals. If that is so, let me ask you this very easy question to answer. Show me where the credit for these vocals is given. Show me Jim's statements that these vocals are not his. Show me anything, other than what you say here. That's easy, isn't it? Who feels it is fair to accept this without backup authentification? "Main Performer" is Jim on the album. There are several people listed for "vocal, backup vocal" but this does not indicate, nor is there an industry standard to indicate this way, that a lead vocal is being taken in place of the main performer. If you believed that, for example, that Jim's voice had to sound a certain way because of the performances he gave on stage with Meatloaf, and his voice could not sound a different way, and comparing that vocal to the vocals on some songs on Bad For Good gave you the sense of recognition of that voice, and none on the other songs, then somewhere along the line someone could have said that those were not Jim's vocals. But that is a mistake. They are his vocals. If one does not know that for sure, one of course could seek where the credits are written, or interview information to find out the actual truth of this. But none of the information sources show that Jim did not do his own vocals. If one has some knowledge of vocals as an instrumentation in music, one could be aware of the range variations possible and probable in the vocals of a trained singer. A higher octave and a lower octave tonality don't mix in the same ratio of larynx applicaiton, and so the voice definitely sounds different. There is other work being done in the throat. It isn't even in the difference between a regular or a falsetto voice. When the bands are tight, there is one tone, when the bands are more relaxed, there is another. Tight larynx bands are in occurence in the higher octaves. Technically, it is an easy thing to figure out. If you are someone looking for things to sound the way you expect them to sound, and someone says it sounds different because someone else did the singing, it is easily enough believed. But, here I believe that there is an error. I believe that Jim did all the vocals he claims to have made on the album, which are all of the lead vocals, on all of the songs. Recent demos put out, those that show his lower range such as Graveyard Shift, validate the error, and then a vocal set comes out like "Not Allowed To Love" which definitely is sung by Jim, and you can hear that there is a wide range of tonalities to the voice of this one man. So, what I'm bringing to your attention is this, and also giving you the things I heard which you may like to listen to again. And when you do, think on the possibility that Jim is singing his own songs where he says he is singing his own songs. If Jim said he didn't sing these songs that keep coming up in discussion, then please show me where he said it. > > > Hi, I just wanted to post that I have been having so much > > fun this week, with some limitations we know, but you've > > been just great to me, generally and I think you are a > > great bunch of people. > > > > Sometimes I got to forgetting how much time it takes to > > post and keep up with things like this but I have so many > > other things that I must do that takes up my time. I just > > don't want to leave you for a small break without giving > > something to you. > > > > I didn't really get to do a whole lot of talking with > > Smeghead , but to catch up generally I think he has more > > on the ball than he shows, and I appreciated a whole lot > > the interview he patched together and shared with us. It > > made me laugh alot. > > > > I went to his site today and found some really fabulous > > things that I either didn't realize existed, or had not > > heard either before or in a long while. Of course, I'm > > more biased towards Jim and you could probably understand > > that. So I listened the the recordings of "More Than You > > Deserve" with Jim on the vocal, the Australian radio > > interview by phone that he did promoting the Bad For Good > > album, and the Rory Dodd demo of "A Kiss Is A Terrible > > Thing To Waste". I really had some strong feelings and > > thoughts coming out of the experience, and most of all the > > feeling that I want to share it with you. But, not for a > > whole production of statements and declarations that could > > make your head or mine, spin. I also wanted to be > > cognizant of the fact that Smeghead's site bandwidth is > > his own to budget. So I placed the selections into one of > > those general file hosts for you to download without any > > other encumbrances. > > > > What I would like it if you could listen for, if you are > > in the mood, is that Jim does say in the Aussie interview > > that he sings "Left In The Dark". I've been seeing others > > saying or seeming to suggest that Rory Dodd has done that > > and other songs on the album, while my understanding is > > that Jim did all of his own lead vocals and some of his > > backing vocals as well. So, if you listen to the three > > files in the order placed, with the Rory Dodd song last, I > > wonder if you might, especially after hearing Jim sing so > > much more recently now, think that the Rory Dodd label of > > the vocal is in error? > > > > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/26402696/three_selections_jimsteinman.zip.html > > > > I'll be checking in, and looking for your responses, > > thinking well of all of you whether you decide to flog me > > or not. Enjoy this fabulous board of yours, and God Bless. > > > > > > | |
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