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Tremorlor 02:48 pm UTC 10/28/07 |
| In reply to: | re: NJC: Dumbledore being gay - John_Galt 11:50 am UTC 10/28/07 |
| > You sound like a kid arguing with his parents that he > shouldn't have to go to Sunday school. Don't worry, I > won't make you go. But the Bible is, in whole or in part, > a big, big part of the Judeo-Christian experience for > millions of people around the globe. It's also difficult > or impossible to fully participate in western culture > without seeing its influence everywhere from moral > philosophy to literature; in an example that might mean > something to you, I've even heard the term "Christ Figure" > bandied about in Harry Potter book reviews. :) The Christ figure was stolen together from a whole number of older religions, Osiris and Mithra for example. > I understand that you can point out that like any powerful > text or religion, there are some horror stories to remind > us that Christianity does not promise or deliver heaven > here on earth. Fighting wars over Harry Potter would be > rediculous because it's just entertainment -- the Bible > has real impact, for good or evil. The impact was mostly negative. More ppl were killed because of religious documents than anything else. It'd be better if the bible and assorted books would also be considered to be entertainment. > Let me just say a quick word about fanatical loonies. For > those who read the Bible and the New Testament in > particular, it will remain one of greatest and most > passionate rallying cries for tolerance around. There's precious little about tolerance in there. > The > typical person who hasn't read the Bible answers this by > congratulating themselves because they are educated about > "homophobia" or a history of wars. Followers of different religions are also satanized, women are put down, glorification of nationality in the old testament (the whole thing about the chosen people), the ramplings of Paul in the nt... Quite a lot of writings to put people down and keep them in the iron grasp of the high priests. > The history of wars is > not consistent with a fair reading of the Bible -- in > other words, the Bible was not a cause of war, but an > excuse to fight wars and commit atrocities by humans who > are crippled by the very same kind of evil that the Bible > strives to save us from. As you keep mentioning homosexuals, it's ok to kill them according to the bible. Must be something extremely evil then, lying together with another man. > The Bible does everything it can > not to depict Jesus as a general. How come that so many Romans were needed to arrest a pacifist then? > There's no way these > secularists could have actually read the book and come > away saying that the book is the cause of people lynching > gays in Wisconsin or fighting wars in the middle east. Quote is likely off, but "a man who lies with a man as he would with a woman is to be put to death" does sound like a commandment. And if someone follows the bible makes it legal for him to kill gays. | |
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